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  • BrooklynBomber
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    #11
    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
    Isnt that what I told him?
    yours was too general(without tips on what food he should eat) and the whole "lots of reps" routine is actually wrong. If he is gonna do small number of reps with bigger weight but maintain a diet he is gonna gain stength without bulking up. Ask any powerlifter about it.

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    • Verstyle
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      #12
      Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
      yours was too general(without tips on what food he should eat) and the whole "lots of reps" routine is actually wrong. If he is gonna do small number of reps with bigger weight but maintain a diet he is gonna gain stength without bulking up. Ask any powerlifter about it.
      hmm well I know alot of ppl including my friend that i spar with and uhhh he's pretty cut and he does everything I just said. A powerlifter is the wrong person to ask because most likely they look nothing like a skinny guy not trying to bulk.I dont lift but alot of ppl look at me and assume I do.So I tell them,just because I dont lift doesnt mean I dont know what im talking about.

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        #13
        Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
        hmm well I know alot of ppl including my friend that i spar with and uhhh he's pretty cut and he does everything I just said. A powerlifter is the wrong person to ask because most likely they look nothing like a skinny guy not trying to bulk.I dont lift but alot of ppl look at me and assume I do.So I tell them,just because I dont lift doesnt mean I dont know what im talking about.
        How is this relevant to what I am talking about? I just gave him cold hard facts. If you are gonna exercise without eating too much (more calories then you burn) you are not gonna gain weight because there is simply nothing to gain weight from and besides, he is talking about gaining strength not getting cut(which is a whole other story and does not have much to do with amount of reps).

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        • Verstyle
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          #14
          Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
          How is this relevant to what I am talking about? I just gave him cold hard facts. If you are gonna exercise without eating too much (more calories then you burn) you are not gonna gain weight because there is simply nothing to gain weight from and besides, he is talking about gaining strength not getting cut(which is a whole other story and does not have much to do with amount of reps).
          And hes talking about getting strong,uhh thats kinda hard to lift weights without gaining ne thing.WELL I GUESS FOR SOME PEOPLE IT IS,some ppl just cant gain alot of muscle but they do try alot.

          So a lean Tommy Hearns type I think would be good cause Tommy was skinny and cut but strong. I dont go to the gym but I have some sort of thought on how it is.My friend is skinny and extremly strong,weighing only 145 and about the thread starters height too.How many ppl can bench 230lbs 3 times at 145lbs. Not alot.And he does all I said.So that tells me different on what your saying.I'll take some1s advice that lifts or box's over some1 that really doesnt.

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          • Chipper
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            #15
            u guys know a lot more than me so im just sucking up the knowledge thx

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            • batista
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              #16
              Lift heavy with low reps and not many sets

              Once you build up to a 1.5x bodyweight Barbell Squat then you can think about doing Plyometrics.

              Keep your nutrition in check...

              Stick with compound lifts such as Deadlifts,Squats,Dips,Chinups,Overhead Presses etc and a FEW isolation exercises (e.g. 2 sets of curls and calf raises).

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              • New Life 79
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                #17
                I work out 4-5 times a week at the gym, and at the start of the year i decided to try this year to become stronger in benchpress. I chanced my training and now train 2 times benchpress every week. At monday i work out light but explosive in benchpress, and at a high pace. I only rest 40 sek. between every set in benchpress, and i dont put on to much weight but try to make the lifts as fast as i can on the way up.

                Then on fridays i lift heavy with low reps, and rest longer between the sets. And one big chance is of course i try to eat much better and to eat right food. And the most importent thing for me is that i have cut down on the party life, only 1 party the last 2 months

                At the start of the year i did 235 pounds, and so far i have managed to do 270 pounds. I hope i can countinue like this without any injuries and setbacks. I feel better then ever and training is more fun then ever.

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                • SpeedKillz
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by New Life 79
                  I work out 4-5 times a week at the gym, and at the start of the year i decided to try this year to become stronger in benchpress. I chanced my training and now train 2 times benchpress every week. At monday i work out light but explosive in benchpress, and at a high pace. I only rest 40 sek. between every set in benchpress, and i dont put on to much weight but try to make the lifts as fast as i can on the way up.

                  Then on fridays i lift heavy with low reps, and rest longer between the sets. And one big chance is of course i try to eat much better and to eat right food. And the most importent thing for me is that i have cut down on the party life, only 1 party the last 2 months

                  At the start of the year i did 235 pounds, and so far i have managed to do 270 pounds. I hope i can countinue like this without any injuries and setbacks. I feel better then ever and training is more fun then ever.

                  thats good that ur makin progress, but what does that have to do with the original poster's question?...

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                  • potatoes
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Nickman949
                    Is it possible to weight lift without gaining any mass? I dont want to get muscley just stronger


                    Pumping iron might increase your muscle strength, but it won't increase your punching power potential. Your potential is defined by your genes and no amount of weightlifting will change that. Traditional boxing training will make you strong enough to be a boxer, and it will teach you how to reach your full potential. Having a lot of power is one thing, but trying to use it on a credible opponent is another.

                    Did you hear Kelly Pavlik say on Friday Night Fights that it is often the "baby punches" that do the most damage? Learning to hit the guy in front of you with punches that he does not expect takes many hundreds of hours of practise. No amount of pumping iron is going to teach you how to do these things.

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                    • yrrej
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                      #20
                      Easy. Lift heavy, e.g. near your max, but 5 or less reps per set. Give the muscle groups you work at least 3 days of rest. Take steroids for quick results....

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