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  • McAlister
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    #41
    Originally posted by Animal Squabbs
    AHAHAHAHA what a coincidence, I was in here talkin about the philly shell and today me and my brother were in a video game store and I looked at the back of a Justice League game and ****in BATMAN is in the philly shell fighting something. I bursted out laughin in the store.

    look at Batman...


    I think they have superman in that same style, u cant tell from that pic because he's punching someone but his right arm is the same as batmans


    but, I wouldnt call that the philly shell... the shell is a defense, chin tucked, and his left arm would have to be close in to his body to protect against body shots..

    he's just fighting from the "speed" boxers stance (according to fight night) lol

    just the regular low left stance

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    • sammikjo
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      #42
      Originally posted by McAlister
      GYM- Tues, Thurs, Sat.

      I have a routine I do on the pushup bar everyday, 3 diffrent angles, 3 times for each angel = 1 set.. and I do 3 sets

      I go to youtube and pull up that 8min. Ab workout.. and I do it along with the video

      And I try to jog in the morning with my husky (wearing a 22lb. vest)

      but, I often get lazy.... I might jog 3times out the week instead of everyday
      what about in the boxing gym?

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      • McAlister
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        #43
        Originally posted by sammikjo
        what about in the boxing gym?
        depends on what the trainer has us do.. aight I get there...

        1. strech
        2. jump rope 2/3 rds
        3. then he have us get in the ring, shadow box with weights for a rd., without for a rd., with for a rd., without for a rd.
        4. then we work on the focus mitts
        5. work the heavy bags, double end bags
        6. burn out on the bags
        7. crunches with the medicine ball
        8. go home, or sparr if you want

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        • mookiep
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          #44
          lots of dumb things said in this thread. Philly Shells only good if you're a counter puncher. If you're a very good counter puncher ur opponents done.

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          • EzzardFan
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            #45
            I use the shell a lot. There are a few crucial points to using it:

            1) It works best if you are trying to get inside your opponent rather than fight at a distance. You use your lead shoulder to barge your way in fast, with your chin tucked in tight, then unload that lead hook to the body and/or the head.

            2) If works really well for a Southpaw fighting an opponent in an orthodox stance if you circle to their lead side.

            3) Avoid using the rear hand to parry, it's better to shoulder roll away from the punch, or to bob and weave. Watch Joe Frazier.

            4) To avoid having the lead hand pinned you simply alternate between different guard positions. I work my way through low, standard, and high guard. I make the changes just as the opponent is thinking about unloading a shot on me and it messes with their head. Again watch Joe Frazier who is a master at this. He's always bobbing, weaving, shoulder rolling, and moving his guard around.

            5) You need to be very nimble on your feet, and have good upper body movement.

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            • Righthandbanger
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              #46
              I know there are guys that use it really well, but when I spar the guy in my gym who uses it I spend my time intelligently pressuring them and cutting off the ring until I can get them cornered and seriously hurt them. Also if you clinch the style seems to get you thrown around alot and leave you with no defence inside

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              • EzzardFan
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                #47
                Originally posted by Righthandbanger
                I know there are guys that use it really well, but when I spar the guy in my gym who uses it I spend my time intelligently pressuring them and cutting off the ring until I can get them cornered and seriously hurt them. Also if you clinch the style seems to get you thrown around alot and leave you with no defence inside
                Only pressure fighters should use this style. If you are chasing them and pressuring them, then they clearly aren't pressure fighters.

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                • F l i c k e r
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Chris46
                  Would someone please be so kind as to explain to me how this works and how it is effective? I have seen pictures and it definitly looks "cool" but is it a good defense? Anything you know about is helpful thanks.
                  It's called the "Shoulder roll" for a reason. First thing is, you NEED incredible reflexes. If you have average reflexes and use this defense your gonna get beat up. Arturo Gatti used this defense but was he known for defense? Hell no. Anyways.....

                  It's only used inside the pocket. If you think you can fight like this any range, your using it wrong. It's used inside the pocket, "clinch range" if you don't understand the pocket. Or against the ropes or in a corner.

                  Your lead shoulder will roll off straights from southpaws fighters and counter straight seemlessly, or deflect orthodox jabs and counter straight seemlessly. You use your back hand to slap down/away jabs, NOT straight punches. The way your arms are positioned, your body is protected. And the result of this is, when your opponent goes to your body, you can unleash counter-uppercuts from your back hand while blocking body shots.

                  That is the defense is in a nutshell. You MUST have great reflexes to use this defense. So many people think they are using it right, or think that Mayweather's padwork will get them great at using this style of defense. When in fact it wont help at all if you don't have great reflexes. You have to block, sway, counter, and go on the offensive seemlessly with this style.


                  If not, you end up using it like Gatti did. And he wasn't known for his defense what so ever.

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                  • Righthandbanger
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                    #49
                    Yeah I was pretty sure the guy I know wasn't doing it right seein as he gets his ass kicked.

                    Its gta be said though, that style of defence is one of those things that only works in boxing. It exposes your back and leaves you open to body clinches

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                    • Righthandbanger
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by EzzardFan
                      Only pressure fighters should use this style. If you are chasing them and pressuring them, then they clearly aren't pressure fighters.
                      if too pressure fighters fight, the weaker one gets driven back

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