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  • #21
    yeh i saw that. I doubt the 4lbs is credible. either way it depends on the boxer, not all chins are the same, the idea that they are is ridiculous.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by me2007 View Post
      bodybuilders rely on intimidation and few are effective at fighting. It only takes 4lbs of frontal pressure on the chin to knock someone out, regardless of the size of their biceps....you can`t train your chin.

      boxer wins easily....a good boxer that is...anyone who has boxed could call themselves a boxer.

      actually size does have a lot to do with how well you take a punch. your body absorbs it and the greater the size the better.

      in a street fight i doubt very many of the good boxers on this site could take my brothers mate who is on the australian weight lifting team. just too strong and definitely an ahtlete.

      in most cases tho the boxer is going to beat a guy whose only advantage is the amount of weight he can lift.. its not even directly proportional to punching power.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by IronNick View Post
        simply put: if a big weight lifter grabs hold of a boxer, its over then and there... but if the boxer avoids his grasp, he will tire the body builder out..
        It isn't that simple. Weight lifters don't know what to do when they grab hold of a boxer. Keep in mind we are talking about just a weightlifter. He isn't some judo or wrestling expert. Is he going to bear hug the boxer to death? Plus boxers are used to being in fights. I know that a boxing match is definately not the same thing as a street fight, but boxers are still used to being in danger while the other guy is trying to hurt them. A weightlifter would just freeze up in a real fight after being hit once or twice.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by mgkirkpatrick View Post
          actually size does have a lot to do with how well you take a punch. your body absorbs it and the greater the size the better.

          in a street fight i doubt very many of the good boxers on this site could take my brothers mate who is on the australian weight lifting team. just too strong and definitely an ahtlete.

          in most cases tho the boxer is going to beat a guy whose only advantage is the amount of weight he can lift.. its not even directly proportional to punching power.
          That depends. Maybe not if your brother's friend is the type who gets in regular street or bar fights, then it might be difficult for most boxers to beat him. Particularly the smaller fighters. If not, then most of the good boxers on the sight could probably take him believe it or not. Just the general environment of a fight would be too foreign to him and taking a punch to the face is not an easy thing if your not used to it. You might picture him taking 3-4 punches to the face and just tearing through them and throwing the boxer to the floor, but that wouldn't happen if the guy isn't a fighter.

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          • #25
            It's hard to say as there could be so many different circumstances. The boxer would win more often than not in a simple stand up fight because the weightlifter simply wouldn't have the skills to deal with it; he would be essentially fighting the other guy's fight, so of course he'd be in trouble. On the other hand, if a much stronger man got hold on a smaller boxer, he could pin him down and possibly choke him out, I don't think he'd even need to have grappling skills to do that, because there comes a point when someone is so much stronger than the other guy that he can totally overwhelm him.

            Ok, some guy mentioned that there's a big difference between bodybuilders and weightlifters, and there is. Weightlifters train purely for functional strength, that's not to say bodybuilders aren't strong too, obviously they are, but theoretically, a weightlifter would be more formidable in an altercation as the strength they possess is more dynamic.

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            • #26
              How can yall just assume most weightlifters can't fight, and that most are slow. I think that's very ignorant. And in a street fight, there are no rules so a boxer doesn't have the advantage; it all depends on the scenario: how much space is given, who gets the first action, size, speed, etc. You put both of them in a ring, sure the boxer will have the advantage. As for the streets, it's all game. I'm pretty sure you won't feel like you can knock out a 250-350lb weight lifter when they are standing infront of you, roid raged at the bar.

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              • #27
                hit him on the chin and he'll go to sleep like all the others.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Southpaw16 View Post
                  That depends. Maybe not if your brother's friend is the type who gets in regular street or bar fights, then it might be difficult for most boxers to beat him. Particularly the smaller fighters. If not, then most of the good boxers on the sight could probably take him believe it or not. Just the general environment of a fight would be too foreign to him and taking a punch to the face is not an easy thing if your not used to it. You might picture him taking 3-4 punches to the face and just tearing through them and throwing the boxer to the floor, but that wouldn't happen if the guy isn't a fighter.
                  yeah it wasnt a good example. the dudes a bouncer so he he's used to fighting but i agree 100 percent if he ws just a normal joe that happened to be strong i wouldnt mention it.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by dario View Post
                    How can yall just assume most weightlifters can't fight, and that most are slow. I think that's very ignorant. And in a street fight, there are no rules so a boxer doesn't have the advantage; it all depends on the scenario: how much space is given, who gets the first action, size, speed, etc. You put both of them in a ring, sure the boxer will have the advantage. As for the streets, it's all game. I'm pretty sure you won't feel like you can knock out a 250-350lb weight lifter when they are standing infront of you, roid raged at the bar.
                    I think the idea is that the guy is a weightlifter but doesnt fight.

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                    • #30
                      yeah, otherwise its boxer vs boxer who is also very strong

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