its a no no .but should i work on weight squats for leg power since i squat alot

[Verstyle]

****er. I worked for years to look like you. A long time ago, mind you.

Squat. Learn how and do it right. It'll help your boxing.

yeah i was thinkin bout squats but that suit might work good. oh yeah. the last time i actually lifted lifted was 5 years ago for athletics .ahahaha

[phallus]

Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to www.bodybuilding.com, check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. EDIT: It's enlightening to talk to a guy who looks like he can't spell, but who can talk your ear off about nitrogen retention, hydration, glycogen depletion, ATP, vanadyl sulfate supplementation vs. gylcemic index mapping, and the finer points of protein intake. And yet at my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.

I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

Maybe I should switch careers.

i do deep squats - with very light weight or none at all, and my knees feel great after and i have arthritis. i think it's actually strengthened my knees, i don't have any scientific evidence to prove this, i'm going by feel before and after i work out.

also fraidy, u should really be taking glucosamine, since i started on that stuff a couple years ago, my joints never get as stiff as they used to. if u take it, u'll be feel like playing with gruntruck again

[Southpaw16]

http://store.titleboxing.com/speedtrainer.html orhttp://store.titleboxing.com/strength-weighted-shorts.html the shorts. i would have alot more explosive power

those things are fine, but not really necessary. You could do plyometric jumps with dumbells in your hand to get explosive power for example. Or you could just throw some weight into a backpack, strap it on, and then run up a hill. Or push your car around an empty lot, if you have a car. There are a million different gadgets out there, but rather than waste money you could get the same benefits with basic equipment.

[Verstyle]

those things are fine, but not really necessary. You could do plyometric jumps with dumbells in your hand to get explosive power for example. Or you could just throw some weight into a backpack, strap it on, and then run up a hill. Or push your car around an empty lot, if you have a car. There are a million different gadgets out there, but rather than waste money you could get the same benefits with basic equipment.

yeah i could. but these pants and vest u can where everywhere. i would look weird wearing a backpack to work or to boxing.hell even sparring

[Floydmayweather]

If u can learn good technique with squats and jump squats u can gain alot of punching power. I have a long upper body but large powerful legs. I use my legs and hips to put alot of power into my punches. I think most people go to heavy and just do more harm than good, just take your time and work on technique first and build up slowly. Peace

[BigCol]

Absolutely. I fractures both kneecaps in a car wreck when I was 22. I started lifting weights on the advice of my physical therapist once I got out. I have arthritis in both knees, now; if I don't squat, the winters here (cold + damp) are really bad for me. Having strong quads keeps my weight off the joints, which helps a lot.

Vers, you should have known better than to have asked this question. Christ, look at your physique! I know you lift weights; I saw that camera phone video of you putting up 195 on the bench and your form was perfect. So you should already know that squats are just about the best overall exercise you can do, whatever sport you're in. A properly-performed deep squat works 75% of the muscles in your body. Deep squats build coordination, balance, flexibility, functional strength, and explosive power. Professional athletes from NFL linemen to figure skaters use the squat as the foundation of their weight training.

Yes, yrrej, boxers don't bend their knees clear down into full-squat position. But half-squats are bad for your knees and can be very bad for your back. Stopping and starting the squatting motion with the thighs above parallel places tremendous strain on the ligaments of the knee, and when changing direction in the middle of the motion, one tends to cheat the weight and "bounce," which puts a load on the lower back and compresses the spine, which is extremely dangerous. You need to go to the bottom of the motion, rest for a moment until there is no further downward motion from the bar or your body, and then press back up. A similar, but opposite, motion to a dead-hang chin-up.

I hate to sound like a schmuck, but is there anyone else on this site -- hell, in this sport -- who actually knows and understands weightlifting as it pertains to athletic training? I feel like I'm writing the same posts every couple of weeks.

You all would seriously -- SERIOUSLY -- do very well to drop over to www.bodybuilding.com, check out the articles on fat loss and sports training, watch the videos of the lifts performed properly, and start to learn the science of athletic training. I'm not suggesting that you take up bodybuilding, but even the casual fratboy gym rat taking NOXplode and pumping his biceps is lightyears beyond most boxers I've ever met when it comes to the cutting edge of emerging athletic-performance science. EDIT: It's enlightening to talk to a guy who looks like he can't spell, but who can talk your ear off about nitrogen retention, hydration, glycogen depletion, ATP, vanadyl sulfate supplementation vs. gylcemic index mapping, and the finer points of protein intake. And yet at my gym, boxers still argue over the pros and cons of Gatorade.

I do believe that a certified athletic trainer, with a background in exercise physiology, a finger on the pulse of athletic science, and a love of boxing, would make a killing in this game.

Maybe I should switch careers.

Why are you acting like You're opinion is gospel. I have read many articles that are on both sides of this whole debate concerning boxing and weights. Some say do it, some say don't. I personally don't think weights are that important in a combat sport like boxing because strength isn't the most important aspect - skill is.

FACT - There is NO proof that you can use as evidence that fighters today are better because of weight training. Absolutely ZERO evidence.

[KidDynamite86]

Weights are definately good for athletes. But I think it's more of a personal thing whether you want to lift weights or do bodyweight exercises. An even better option is to mix both. No one ever said you have to chose one side, ya know?

Me, personally, I like doing bodyweight exercises more because it works the core better and you use more body awareness. Plus, I don't have weights.

But on the other hand, weights are easier to load up with and go heavy on.

Again, it's a matter of preference and goals.

For the original poster, for leg power, I would mix in both. One day, work max power, and the other day, work on explosiveness.

[heihaci]

i had runner's knee
doing lunges with weights really helped

[fraidycat]

Why are you acting like You're opinion is gospel. I have read many articles that are on both sides of this whole debate concerning boxing and weights. Some say do it, some say don't. I personally don't think weights are that important in a combat sport like boxing because strength isn't the most important aspect - skill is.

FACT - There is NO proof that you can use as evidence that fighters today are better because of weight training. Absolutely ZERO evidence.

Every other sport in the world has benefitted from weight training and modern sports nutrition and supplementation. Why should boxing be any different? In an age where even sabre fencers lift weights and take creatine (I fenced competitively in college), boxing stands alone as the caveman throwback traditionalist sport -- jumping rope and eating red meat and pasta was enough in the 1920's but no longer. There is some kind of bull**** romantic traditionalist fantasy that boxing was at its peak back then, and that modern training is making it less great, now. Rocky IV didn't help.

Time marches on; stay where you want, Me, I'm taking advantage of everything that science has figured out -- I'm staying up to date on the latest supplementation science and strength training methodologies, and I will continue to apply them to boxing and I will continue to use every tool at my disposal to strike fear into the hearts of my opponents. But hey, do what you want.

I act like my opinion is gospel because it's working for me. I'm in the ring, I'm hitting the weights, and I'm kicking ass. And it particularly pisses me off when people who don't box, or don't lift weights, or neither (as is often the case on these boards), tell me what works and what doesn't. Try it and see if it works for you.

[phallus]

Every other sport in the world has benefitted from weight training and modern sports nutrition and supplementation. Why should boxing be any different? In an age where even sabre fencers lift weights and take creatine (I fenced competitively in college), boxing stands alone as the caveman throwback traditionalist sport -- jumping rope and eating red meat and pasta was enough in the 1920's but no longer. There is some kind of bull**** romantic traditionalist fantasy that boxing was at its peak back then, and that modern training is making it less great, now. Rocky IV didn't help.

Time marches on; stay where you want, Me, I'm taking advantage of everything that science has figured out -- I'm staying up to date on the latest supplementation science and strength training methodologies, and I will continue to apply them to boxing and I will continue to use every tool at my disposal to strike fear into the hearts of my opponents. But hey, do what you want.

I act like my opinion is gospel because it's working for me. I'm in the ring, I'm hitting the weights, and I'm kicking ass. And it particularly pisses me off when people who don't box, or don't lift weights, or neither (as is often the case on these boards), tell me what works and what doesn't. Try it and see if it works for you.

do u listen to gruntruck when u train?