Training & Fighting [girlfriend & family]

[McAlister]

u should not be using the philly shell, its just plain ******. My trainer has trained many people and has had some great fighters. However he still says hes never had someone good enough to teach the phillyshell. Your ****ed if u run into a strong guy who keeps his hands up and roughs you up. Watch Rjj vs Glen Johsnon, that type of **** could happen. I wish ya luck bro but ur gonna get tagged bad keeping that left hand down.

Appreciate u wishin me luck, instead of some that gets angry by what I chose to do lol...

And yeah you have a point with the RJJ vs Glen Johnson fight, but on the flip side, I highly doubt glen wouldve been able to do anything with a Prime Roy

but yeah it has its ups, and downs

[Evil_Meat]

Appreciate u wishin me luck, instead of some that gets angry by what I chose to do lol...

And yeah you have a point with the RJJ vs Glen Johnson fight, but on the flip side, I highly doubt glen wouldve been able to do anything with a Prime Roy

but yeah it has its ups, and downs

yeah prime rjj blows away glen, but a big reason he lost is because his style of fighting is really odd and it only worked because of his incredible athleticism. Against Glen he fought the same way but he didnt have that tremendous speed. Unless u have that kind of speed advantage ur gonna get beat like an old roy jones does

[McAlister]

yeah prime rjj blows away glen, but a big reason he lost is because his style of fighting is really odd and it only worked because of his incredible athleticism. Against Glen he fought the same way but he didnt have that tremendous speed. Unless u have that kind of speed advantage ur gonna get beat like an old roy jones does

oh yeah definately... I start out with both sorta up, til I get a feel of how fast my opponent is, then once Im comfortable and can see that Im alot faster I drop the left.... but when they both are up its more on the offensive side, than a winky defensive thing... Like in this video

roy jones in his golden glove yrs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bT7fNnZCKw

[fraidycat]

oh yeah definately... I start out with both sorta up, til I get a feel of how fast my opponent is, then once Im comfortable and can see that Im alot faster I drop the left.... but when they both are up its more on the offensive side, than a winky defensive thing... Like in this video

roy jones in his golden glove yrs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bT7fNnZCKw

Are you seriously saying you're as fast as RJJ was in that video? If you are, you should have sponsors lined up around the block. Good on you, man.

[McAlister]

Are you seriously saying you're as fast as RJJ was in that video? If you are, you should have sponsors lined up around the block. Good on you, man.

Why do ppl always take everything I say left.... I said when both are slightly up, its more of being on the offensive... meaning Im still boxing the same as if it was down, instead of jus havin them up blocking like winky

and then I put a link to show what I was talking about, I didnt say "Im this fast"

[fraidycat]

Sorry. I misunderstood. My bad. Have some K.

[Evil_Meat]

The problem with phillyshell i find is that you can block the right hand np, but its very difficult to block the left by moving into it, and quickly getting in position to roll again, very diffucult to do against someone with hand speed. Whenever i use the phillyshell i always end up getting hit with left hands to the side of the head, either that or i get hit down the center more because i dont turn properly after i block the right hand with my shoulder. My guard is like a winky wright type guard but only if my jab is working great will a drop my left hand. I also always roll when i throw a left to the body and i cant bring it up intime as well. My instincts want me to use phillyshell but I know using a winky wright type defense is much better. Not many people in boxing can do the phillyshell correctly it isnt common.

[McAlister]

The problem with phillyshell i find is that you can block the right hand np, but its very difficult to block the left by moving into it, and quickly getting in position to roll again, very diffucult to do against someone with hand speed. Whenever i use the phillyshell i always end up getting hit with left hands to the side of the head, either that or i get hit down the center more because i dont turn properly after i block the right hand with my shoulder. My guard is like a winky wright type guard but only if my jab is working great will a drop my left hand. I also always roll when i throw a left to the body and i cant bring it up intime as well. My instincts want me to use phillyshell but I know using a winky wright type defense is much better. Not many people in boxing can do the phillyshell correctly it isnt common.

Your gettin hit with lefts down the middle? Did you try swatting those jabs away with your right hand?

[Evil_Meat]

Your gettin hit with lefts down the middle? Did you try swatting those jabs away with your right hand?

i barely ever get hit down the middle... i usually get hit on the side of the head, if not its down the center but not too often. The reason why i get hit on the side of the head is because of trying to swat away the jabs. These are experiences from sparring an excellent fighter at my gym whos turning pro, so he always finds the hole in the defense.

[McAlister]

i barely ever get hit down the middle... i usually get hit on the side of the head, if not its down the center but not too often. The reason why i get hit on the side of the head is because of trying to swat away the jabs. These are experiences from sparring an excellent fighter at my gym whos turning pro, so he always finds the hole in the defense.

ooh aight, yeah that pretty much explains it... but I think if your fightin someone with your amount of experience (which you will be in a tournament) then it should work fairly well... I would say keep practicing it, because just knowing how to do it wont hurt... You dont have to use it in an actual bout if you dont want to or dont feel comfortable but it's cool just to have the knowledge