***6'0, 132 lbs))) Need advice on training

[Flip Skinny]

I was 5'11 and 128lbs for along, long time. I am up to 135 now so I am in the same range as you.. haha. Anyway, most of the weight training you can do at our weight will only make you gain weight that you don't need. We already have the leverage and speed to hit fast and hard. The more your muscles are used through punching the more force you will be able to exert through them because they will remember the specific movement. I bet when you hit kids your own weight they say you hit pretty hard, huh? I usually get it.. and how's your ingame anyway? Other then a weak uppercut and a savage left hook I'm pretty much useless. When someone gets inside on me I usually pull a Foreman and push them way, way away from me with my right forearm. Speaking of forearms, do you have long forearms? I think most of us tall skinny kids have rediculously long forearms which greatly favors the amateur tight-like guard of ours. I know that was alot of questions.. haha but it's cool to find someone that has the same build as my own.

Everyone keeps telling me that weights will make me gain weight, but its never worked like that for me, maybe thats only for heavy weights, and maxs'?

About my ingame, ive only spared once, and never used my ingame. Having the reach I did, my game consisted of 1-2's.

And Yeah, id say I have longer fore arms.




Anyone here do this exercize, might be called "punch outs"? Pretty much it's taking a 5-10 lbs dumbell and throwing a punch. It def makes me burn.

[The Surgeon]

Hey everyone. Im new to this forum. Im 19, been training to box for a bout 6 months now, sparred once. I scanned through every 170 pages of threads you have here. Not a whole lot was relavant to a skinny guy like me.

I am 6'0, 132 lbs. Not my choice, I am just a freak of nature and I honestly dont see myself gaining a decent amount of weight, I really would like to just focus on making my body the best it can at around 130-135ish.

As of now my training consist of:

30 push ups, 3 sets.
Flat bench press, about 90 lbs. 10 reps, 3 sets (not my max lol)
dumbell curls, 35 lbs 3 sets of 10 reps.
Heavy bag.

Then a protien shake, but im starting to give up on gaining much wieght.


Overall I want to have the biggest **** for my buck wieghting what I do. I would like to gain some muscle and look good while doing it.

TO MY QUESTIONS!!!

Does my current training sound legit?
For a person my size, will push-ups benefit me much?
Does a person of my figure have a good advantage in the ring?
What other training could I do to gain strength and get ripped?
Any other special circumstances I should know wieghting so little in this sport?

PS. I do not have a gym, just a bench and some free weights.

THANKS ALOT EVERYONE!


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In boxing ur size and weight will be more advantage than not. Longer height and reach than ur oppenents. But if ur phisique is really bothering u, eat plenty Protien, a gram per pound of ur weight so thats 132grams of protien a day! For serious gains. Eat egg whites, Fish, white meats, hit the weights room and watch the growth! A lot of peeps think weight trainning could harm ur boxing tho, if i was u id just stick with what ur doing coz while ur skinny u dont look particuarly weak or anything and as i said before the lighter u are the smaller ur oppenents will likely be giving u better reach and height advantages

[fraidycat]

Everyone keeps telling me that weights will make me gain weight, but its never worked like that for me, maybe thats only for heavy weights, and maxs'?

You need to take in a ton of protein and calories to bulk up. Recent science has shown that 150g of protein consumed within 24 hours after a workout results in an average of 20g -- a pound is 453 grams, so we're talking .04 lbs! -- of muscle gain.

Take that equation and run with it for a moment. A pound is 450 grams. That means that taking in 150g of protein -- that's five chicken breasts -- per day, keeping your muscles under constant repair (i.e., working out every day), it would take you about 3 weeks of working out daily and eating 150g of protein per day -- in addition to your maintenance calories (3,000 per day if you're working out that hard; maybe more!) -- to build ONE POUND of solid muscle. Look at a 1-lb. steak; that's what you're building. If you eat a lot of fat and carbs, you can LOOK bigger, but gaining lean muscle is a slow and labor-intensive process.

Most boxers don't eat enough, or train correctly, to make the kind of gains that they're so afraid of. That is a simple, undeniable fact. There's a myth among many boxers that if you do one set of squats and drink a protein shake you'll wake up the next morning looking like a WWF star. Those kinds of gains take YEARS. Go to www.bodybuilding.com and look through the "post your progress" thread, and see what six months or a year of dedicated bodybuilding does.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29

From that forum, here's a pic of a kid with an ectomorphic build like yours, after NINE MONTHS of bodybuilding -- and these are gains he's proud enough to brag about -- he gained 10 lbs. of muscle:


His thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1008743

One other thing I want to throw in, and that is that boxing training is highly catabolic, i.e., it throws your body into a state where it has to feed on itself -- once your glycogen stores are depleted (after about 20 minutes of cardio) your body kicks over into protein catabolism if you're outside of "the fat burning zone," which is about the exertion level of a brisk walk. We don't work out at a brisk walk; we do the equivalent of 1 or 2 hours of windsprints every day. Plus, healing from bruises and blunt trauma increases catabolism. Catabolism equals death to a bodybuilder, which is why they avoid intense aerobic and high-intensity anaerobic exercise like a boxing workout; boxers, however, live in a catabolic state.

There will always be a few genetic freaks who gain muscle faster than the rest of us; what I've posted is a generalization based on recent findings. And it holds up with my personal experiences in bodybuilding, which I pursued for about four years back in my 20's.

Eat. Lift. Don't worry about getting huge. It won't happen fast enough for it to be a problem. Certainly not for you, at your age and build. I promise.

[The Surgeon]

You need to take in a ton of protein and calories to bulk up. Recent science has shown that 150g of protein consumed within 24 hours after a workout results in an average of 20g -- a pound is 453 grams, so we're talking .04 lbs! -- of muscle gain.

Take that equation and run with it for a moment. A pound is 450 grams. That means that taking in 150g of protein -- that's five chicken breasts -- per day, keeping your muscles under constant repair (i.e., working out every day), it would take you about 3 weeks of working out daily and eating 150g of protein per day -- in addition to your maintenance calories (3,000 per day if you're working out that hard; maybe more!) -- to build ONE POUND of solid muscle. Look at a 1-lb. steak; that's a considerable amount. If you eat a lot of fat and carbs, you can LOOK bigger, but gaining lean muscle is a slow and labor-intensive process.

Most boxers don't eat enough, or train correctly, to make the kind of gains that they're so afraid of. That is a simple, undeniable fact. There's a myth among many boxers that if you do one set of squats and drink a protein shake you'll wake up the next morning looking like a WWF star. Those kinds of gains take YEARS. Go to www.bodybuilding.com and look through the "post your progress" thread, and see what six months or a year of dedicated bodybuilding does.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=29

From that forum, here's a pic of a kid with an ectomorphic build like yours, after NINE MONTHS of bodybuilding -- and these are gains he's proud enough to brag about -- he gained 10 lbs. of muscle:


His thread:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1008743

One other thing I want to throw in, and that is that boxing training is highly catabolic, i.e., it throws your body into a state where it has to feed on itself -- once your glycogen stores are depleted (after about 20 minutes of cardio) your body kicks over into protein catabolism if you're outside of "the fat burning zone," which is about the exertion level of a brisk walk. We don't work out at a brisk walk; we do the equivalent of 1 or 2 hours of windsprints every day. Plus, healing from bruises and blunt trauma increases catabolism. Catabolism equals death to a bodybuilder, which is why they avoid intense aerobic and high-intensity anaerobic exercise like a boxing workout; boxers, however, live in a catabolic state.

There will always be a few genetic freaks who gain muscle faster than the rest of us; what I've posted is a generalization based on recent findings. And it holds up with my personal experiences in bodybuilding, which I pursued for about four years back in my 20's.

Eat. Lift. Don't worry about getting huge. It won't happen fast enough for it to be a problem. Certainly not for you, at your age and build. I promise.

Good post. But why the Hell do they always appear orange in photo 2!?

[fraidycat]

Good post. But why the Hell do they always appear orange in photo 2!?

I dunno. Orange is in, I guess.

One thing I wanted to add: note how "huge" he is after gaining 10 lbs of muscle. Man, I bet he can hardly move, he's so massive. If I got that huge, I wouldn't be able to box. I'd be far too bulky and muscle-bound.

[The Surgeon]

I dunno. Orange is in, I guess.

One thing I wanted to add: note how "huge" he is after gaining 10 lbs of muscle. Man, I bet he can hardly move, he's so massive. If I got that huge, I wouldn't be able to box. I'd be far too bulky and muscle-bound.

Lol! I used to hit the weights and box, didnt find it a problem at all. And when i start back in the next few weeks i intend to get back on the weights! I personally think its a very dated theory not to lift weights but if the guy who started the thread wants to take full advantage of his natural phisique id just go easy on the lifting

[fraidycat]

I personally think its a very dated theory not to lift weights

A lot of boxers appear to be allergic to iron.

[-Antonio-]

If Floyd Mayweather trains with weights its safe to say that the weight lifting thing is all a myth.

The best boxer in the world weight trains in his camp. Think about it...

[-Antonio-]

Oh yeah consider your build a gift when it comes to boxing, and if you really wanted to gain weight you could.

[bobweaver]

WTF this kid looks no bigger in the 2nd then the first picture hes not big hes skinnier looking in the 2nd pic how can you say hes massive? and bulky are you him>?