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    One thing I got chewed out for the last time I fought that mentally challenged whirlwind was that sometimes I was moving backwards instead of laterally. When he would try to initiate a dumb bull rush sometimes I would take a quick step or steps back to get out of range and let him miss. Other times I would jab him and stop him before he even got in, other times I would circle him.

    Even though I'm prone to the brawl I know the way to fight this guy is to box him and simply be smarter and more skilled. So I decided to watch some classic boxer vs brawler fights...It seems that every single fight I watched showed the boxer OFTEN moved backwards, and stepped back when the brawler tried to rush. Either one step or a few steps back...I rarely saw a fighter do a quick side step when someone rushed in and counter successfully. It seemed that during many sequences the boxer would take some step backwards, other times he stood his ground and countered, other times he would circle. DeLaHoya would move back from Mayorga, Hearns against Roldan, Roy did it, Byrd did it often, Ali did it against just about everybody,

    So in essence regardless what textbook technique says, is it wrong to sometimes move backwards?? It seems that moving back and making yourself an out of range target is a common practice to implement in a fight. It appears unlikely if not impossible for a fighter not to be moved backwards by someone whos bull rushing.

    p.s.- Not tryna flood this forum with topics but damn theres a lot of fighters in here and with some good advice at that!
    Last edited by Bucktown Beast; 12-19-2006, 12:23 PM.

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    I don't think the complaint is going backwards, but straight back.

    Usually when you see a guy backpedalling, they do it at a slight arc from either side- makes the other guy have to readjust.

    You would normally want to step back and away from the power hand.

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    • #3
      Like he said, don't go straight back. You can't punch hard going backwards, and you can't go backwards as fast as the other guy can go forwards. Should be obvious.....

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      • #4
        it is a rule that you cannot go straight back because you will get tagged by an overhandright time and time again. zab judah - kosta tszyu is evidence of this.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by yrrej View Post
          Like he said, don't go straight back. You can't punch hard going backwards, and you can't go backwards as fast as the other guy can go forwards. Should be obvious.....
          Nah I mean I know that much. In terms of counterpunching its a no no, but I mean as a tactic. If u have a reckless guy lunging in its natural to jump back or step back. If you don't stand your ground every single time someone charges you, I think moving backwards and staying out of range can be ok to do regardless of what the "real" way to do it is.

          But obviously u wanna stick to your guns and counter punch in your space when its time to.

          Originally posted by Azteca View Post
          zab judah - kosta tszyu is evidence of this.
          Thats more so being ****y and backing away with your hands down.

          Actually spoke to Zab today he says his next fight is against Camacho Jr. then hes gonna fight Cotto. Dunno how true that is but thats what he said.
          Last edited by Bucktown Beast; 12-19-2006, 11:29 PM.

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          • #6
            Its a matter of comfort but u should be turning as u back up. U can back (also jump straight back after moving in to counter but if your getting pressured in close your gonna get tagged. Just practice moving back and fourth in a straight line then every few steps take a step right or left. (say 5 steps) Then do it again with say 3 steps and turn once u get the timing down it almost feels like a dance. Peace

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            • #7
              Just a quick one.
              If i were moving back the other fighter would most proberly try to go for a few big hits, But if he misses one jump forward and go quick with jabs and keep going with that routine. Just thought i would say something.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Scrappy Diggs View Post
                Nah I mean I know that much. In terms of counterpunching its a no no, but I mean as a tactic. If u have a reckless guy lunging in its natural to jump back or step back. If you don't stand your ground every single time someone charges you, I think moving backwards and staying out of range can be ok to do regardless of what the "real" way to do it is.

                But obviously u wanna stick to your guns and counter punch in your space when its time to.


                Thats more so being ****y and backing away with your hands down.

                Actually spoke to Zab today he says his next fight is against Camacho Jr. then hes gonna fight Cotto. Dunno how true that is but thats what he said.
                In terms of pure boxing, going straight bakcwards is a no-no. But if you go(I presume you are orthodox) backwards with throwing your right hand(it is a bit hard of a trick, but if you got decent coordination, it would not be a problem) The right hand should be strong enough to stop the opponent, so you get the chance to move laterally.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scrappy Diggs View Post
                  Nah I mean I know that much. In terms of counterpunching its a no no, but I mean as a tactic. If u have a reckless guy lunging in its natural to jump back or step back. If you don't stand your ground every single time someone charges you, I think moving backwards and staying out of range can be ok to do regardless of what the "real" way to do it is.

                  But obviously u wanna stick to your guns and counter punch in your space when its time to.


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                  Watch Vitaly Klitschko/Corey sanders fight, vitaly is a master of fighting, while going back. The thing is to be able to learn to throw that cross, when you move back, and then to the side, that ofcourse if you are not able to move to the side in a first place.(Which ofcourse is better, to begin with, but in boxing, "better" rarely happens)

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                  • #10
                    As a rule, I try not to go straight back but dip off to the side, usually to the left behind a jab. But in the incidences in which I need to move backwards, heres what I do. First thing is jab, then dip while stepping back then when you come back up, throw 1 or 2 jabs to throw of your man's focus. If you just go str8 back, you can get caught with straight shots and find yourself off balance and having issues recover your composure.

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