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  • IwatchBoxing
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    #51
    Originally posted by moy22487
    He did beat tito he beat mosely the second time and he got the win againts strum.
    Hatton, margarito and cotto have no chance in hell againts oscar. Even past prime oscar
    Hahahhahahahahahahahaha....your funay. Trinidad was 1 dimensional, and even Oscar screwed that up. Oscar was 1 dimensional too, if a fighter had something called "talent" he would fall short..

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    • Super_Lightweight
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      #52
      Please don't bring up Mayorga. That guy ******. He had Forrest and that was it.
      Eh, false. Mayorga was good because of his power and aggression and chin. That's why he was able to beat the favored Forrest. Lots of people picked Mayo to KO Oscar. That didn't happen, and Oscar gets credit for that.

      No one ever said Floyd was Mayorga. Floyd poses different threats which I still think Oscar can overcome.

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      • SnoopySmurf
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        #53
        Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
        Eh, false. Mayorga was good because of his power and aggression and chin. That's why he was able to beat the favored Forrest. Lots of people picked Mayo to KO Oscar. That didn't happen, and Oscar gets credit for that.

        No one ever said Floyd was Mayorga. Floyd poses different threats which I still think Oscar can overcome.
        My point was, Oscar's dominance of Mayorga is giving fans the impression that he not rusty at all, that he's not over the hill, yada yada yada....

        Mayorga had one famous victory in his career. And he got easily vanquished by Tito. Critics and fans alike (like me, for example) thought - WOW! TITO'S BACK! And you know how that turned out later.

        Oscar's dominance over Mayorga is not that great, if you think about it. Sure he's a top 20 fighter, but he's no where near the level people thought he was.

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        • amagnin
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          #54
          While I don't think that this fight is as risky for Floyd as it would have been 5 years ago, there is still intrigue to this fight. I definitely favor Floyd to win by UD, but considering that this will be Floyd's first fight at 154 where DLH is a natural is a factor. Also, DLH has the clear power edge and while his skills are no doubt diinished, he still can box. The Mayorga fight might as well have not happened in terms of bearing on this fight because Mayorga is just worlds different than Floyd. DLH was clearly the faster and more skilled boxer against Mayorga and he will be the opposite against Floyd. I cannot see DLH winning a decision unless he hurts Floyd badly early and Floyd simply runs for the rest of the fight (think Judah-Baldomir after round 7). Otherwise DLH's best shot is for a KO by left hook which Floyd seems open to when he throws that lead straight right hand. On the other hand, I think Floyd will be waiting on that left hook all night because he knows this is DLH's best punch and the only punch that can really hurt him (I think the right hand is sort of a non-factor for DLH b/c of the infamous shoulder roll).

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          • Double
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            #55
            There's only a 4 year age difference so let's remove that as a factor. De La Hoya got to chose his weight, 154, advantage De La Hoya. PBF has never fought at that weight, so in my opinion this is a fair fight and the winner deserves all the credit.

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            • Super_Lightweight
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              #56
              Mayorga had one famous victory in his career. And he got easily vanquished by Tito. Critics and fans alike (like me, for example) thought - WOW! TITO'S BACK! And you know how that turned out later.
              He was vanquished by Tito because he ******ly fought at 160, and Tito had the perfect style to beat Mayorga. I mean seriously...who's going to beat Tito in a brawl?

              In this fight, Floyd is moving up to fight Oscar, not the other way around. Floyd has had problems with lesser men than Oscar (Castillo comes to mind). The way Floyd can win is by outsmarting Oscar (in other words, Oscar fighting dumb and trying to fight Floyd's fight). If Oscar brings his A-game, he will win. Oscar will connect at some point.

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              • machotime
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                #57
                Originally posted by Double
                There's only a 4 year age difference so let's remove that as a factor. De La Hoya got to chose his weight, 154, advantage De La Hoya. PBF has never fought at that weight, so in my opinion this is a fair fight and the winner deserves all the credit.
                Although there is a 4 year age difference, DLH has not fought very actively in the last couple of years, he has also not performed very well in his last couple fights (dont be fooled by the win over Mayorga).

                DLH is older, has injuries, back problems, rotor cuff problems and is much slower than he ever was. Put it this way do you think that DLH's ability of that when he fought Vargas or Campas? Well that was 4 years ago. DLH is not the same fighter he once was!

                People are dilusional due to his impressive victory over an exploded and destroyed Mayorga. Mayorga is by far the most overrated fighter that i have seen in this era. Don't base DLH's current ability on his performance against Mayo.

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