Montiel Fires Manager, Refuses To Face Gorres

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  • El Jesus
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    #21
    Originally posted by xcaret
    By Ronnie Nathanielsz


    Wow, all of his articles are 99% Pacquiao and the rest talking about the other bums from the phillippines, right now its Gorrez...


    Montiel has his reasons, why doesnt that say that in the article? He knows them but hes just trying to make it seem that Montiel is ducking Gorrez, what a ****ing joke..
    i think montiel probably had other plans to begin with and his maneger probably made the desicion for him without much consultation. gorres is young and up and coming, a fight out in the pacific like that, he would get robbed.

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    • kadyo's
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      #22
      Originally posted by xcaret
      you live in the phillippines emo?
      Si señor and yes I like emo .

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        #23
        Originally posted by Black Jesus
        i think montiel probably had other plans to begin with and his maneger probably made the desicion for him without much consultation. gorres is young and up and coming, a fight out in the pacific like that, he would get robbed.
        The philippines is not known for hometown decision but since you use the word would then I agree.

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        • grayfist
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          #24
          Could his SD loss to Jhonny Gonzalez last May in Carson, CA, have anything to do with Montiel's fickle mind (yes, no, yes, fire the manager, purse bid), as described by Golden Boy Promotions' Gomez?

          It's not easy to shake off a loss of any kind.
          Last edited by grayfist; 11-07-2006, 03:19 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by grayfist
            Could his SD loss to Jhonny Gonzalez last May in Carson, CA, have anything to do with Montiel's feckle mind (yes, no, yes, fire the manager, purse bid), as described by Golden Boy Promotions' Gomez?

            It's not easy to shake off a loss of any kind.
            hi ya there pal. Don't say that or some nuthugger will be very very mad lol. As I said we really don't know what transpired inside team montiel. Who di the yes no yes. Was it the manager alone or montiel alone or a combination of both?

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            • grayfist
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              #26
              Originally posted by kadyo
              hi ya there pal. Don't say that or some nuthugger will be very very mad lol. As I said we really don't know what transpired inside team montiel. Who di the yes no yes. Was it the manager alone or montiel alone or a combination of both?
              Hi buddy! How ya doin?

              Just tossing in what I think for whatever it's worth, pal.

              Yes, it is not clear who was vacilating, really. But, the article says in part that Gomez was talking to the "Montiels", even as he also negotiated with Gary.

              I am guessing that the Montiel crew just wasn't simply able to take a unified position because of some concerns which may not involve money all that much because the option they took (purse bid) is a method employed mostly when there are no promotional takers. Montiel is not a mega-star and Gorres may have a following in the Philippines, but in the US, I do not see promoters stumbling all over each other to get the duo to sign or win a bidding.

              In a purse bid, they can very well get much lesser purses than what GBP is offering. Or, Aldeguer can collude with GBP in a co-promotional deal that would bring the fight to the Philippines, submit a bid that's sufficiently high to discourage competiton and ensure that the fight can be made in Gorres' home turf.
              Last edited by grayfist; 11-07-2006, 03:21 AM.

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              • Papa Ace
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                #27




                ........

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                • kadyo's
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by grayfist
                  Hi buddy! How ya doin?

                  Just tossing in what I think for whatever it's worth, pal.
                  I'm good pal. Well, some poster here might be offended with the idea that his brave fighter would hesitate because of a recent loss LOL.

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                  • grayfist
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kadyo
                    I'm good pal. Well, some poster here might be offended with the idea that his brave fighter would hesitate because of a recent loss LOL.
                    Good to know that buddy! I'm close to being sure that you can now hardly wait for Pac-Morales3!

                    Anyway, I'll take the flack for tossing in what I tossed buddy. Twas just a thought.

                    I edited my previous post to say that I am not really enclined to believe that the primary consideration for the Montiel camp's vacilation is financial. Gomez said it well when he said that Aldeguer may see to it that the fight be staged in Goress home turf. What he perhaps did not say is that Golden Boy Promotions can conspire with Aldeguer to cough up the money, enter a high bid and put a lock on the fight being made in the Philippines.

                    I have always seen purse bids as a method mostly used to push through an un-sellable match-- contests that no promoter, save a very few would touch. Altough it may also be employed to resolve issues in big ticket events, it is seldom employed.

                    That is why I am seeing the Montiel position as one that has only marginal concerns with matters financial.

                    The decision (or lack of a really firm one in the early stages) may also have something to do with Montiel's not liking the idea of fighting a GBP-contract fighter in a GBP -promoted card.

                    Great to see ya pal!
                    Last edited by grayfist; 11-07-2006, 03:39 AM.

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                    • CoLd_WaVE
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ace_Kicker




                      ........
                      duck????

                      a picture of a chicken would do better

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