Mayweather - no condition for jumping rope?

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  • Azteca
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    #11
    i partially agree with you ferocity. BUT, as we all know, mayweather is somewhat of a loose cannon. i don't know what the hell is going on with his head half of the time. i've seen him undisciplined while in training (heck, he was eating chips at the judah presser) before. i don't think it has any bearing on the fight. i respect your opinion, though.

    i also agree with you about floyd will be picking his shots after the 3rd or 4th round. i do think baldomir will be a suprise package and he will give floyd some very unexpected pressure.

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    • josenoway
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      #12
      hopefully carlos brings a very aggressive gameplan early and the fight is competitive before the 6th, but I think any rounds after that are going to belong to Floyd after he's had time to figure out team Baldomir's strategy.

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      • ferocity
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        #13
        Originally posted by Azteca
        i partially agree with you ferocity. BUT, as we all know, mayweather is somewhat of a loose cannon. i don't know what the hell is going on with his head half of the time. i've seen him undisciplined while in training (heck, he was eating chips at the judah presser) before. i don't think it has any bearing on the fight. i respect your opinion, though.

        i also agree with you about floyd will be picking his shots after the 3rd or 4th round. i do think baldomir will be a suprise package and he will give floyd some very unexpected pressure.
        The pressure will be their from Baldomier, but Floyd has to many ways to win and Baldomier is limited. Just looking at the weigh in pictures i can already tell that Baldomeirs weight advantage isn't really going to be their. Best thing for Baldomier is to get Floyd on the ropes and punch him on the stomache shoulders and arms, Mayweather will get away from Baldomiers head shots, so baldomier needs to go for the body shots at least for the first part of the fight. If Floyd wanted to he can box cirlces around Baldmier but i don't think he trained to do this.

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        • Azteca
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          #14
          Originally posted by ferocity
          The pressure will be their from Baldomier, but Floyd has to many ways to win and Baldomier is limited. Just looking at the weigh in pictures i can already tell that Baldomeirs weight advantage isn't really going to be their. Best thing for Baldomier is to get Floyd on the ropes and punch him on the stomache shoulders and arms, Mayweather will get away from Baldomiers head shots, so baldomier needs to go for the body shots at least for the first part of the fight. If Floyd wanted to he can box cirlces around Baldmier but i don't think he trained to do this.
          i resent the comment about you calling baldomir 'limited'. sure, he is not exactly the most athletically gifted, he doesn't have a lot of flash but he does have a lot of heart and determination and he has a great feel for the sport. lots of experience and lots of will. he does throw a lot of punches and he throws very short punches on the inside, which i think floyd wouldn't be used to once he gets on the ropes.

          anyway, i think baldomir's best bet was to taunt floyd. make floyd forget his gameplan and fight with his heart. taunt him, mock him, and make him come to you, half steps to close the gap while he punches, and catch him underneath the chin in an exchange, and up the middle in an exchange, don't always aim for his chin, hit him in the forehead, elbows, collar bone, and shoulder joint with short hard shots in the exchanges and do not lead with LOOPING shots. that is the gameplan for baldomir, imo.

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          • ferocity
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            #15
            Originally posted by Azteca
            i resent the comment about you calling baldomir 'limited'. sure, he is not exactly the most athletically gifted, he doesn't have a lot of flash but he does have a lot of heart and determination and he has a great feel for the sport. lots of experience and lots of will. he does throw a lot of punches and he throws very short punches on the inside, which i think floyd wouldn't be used to once he gets on the ropes.

            anyway, i think baldomir's best bet was to taunt floyd. make floyd forget his gameplan and fight with his heart. taunt him, mock him, and make him come to you, half steps to close the gap while he punches, and catch him underneath the chin in an exchange, and up the middle in an exchange, don't always aim for his chin, hit him in the forehead, elbows, collar bone, and shoulder joint with short hard shots in the exchanges and do not lead with LOOPING shots. that is the gameplan for baldomir, imo.

            What i ment by limited is, he can't box with Mayweather even if he wanted to o, i can't see him being able to cut the ring off on Mayweather cause i dont' think he has the feet to cut off the ring even if he wanted to. And he doesn't have the power to break through Mayweathers guard. And Baldomier is slow comared to Mayweather. And I don't think Baldomier can get Floyd to fight his fight. Can he, yes. But is he willing to do so. In the fights i've seen Baldomier in he hasn't shown me he can fight on the inside, i've seen Mayweather fight on the inside so i know he can if he has too. Floyd wont have his legs for this fight, but i don't think he'll need them. Can Baldomier win, of course he can, but is he willing to make it a dog fight and test his chin, his stamina? We know Mayweather don't like the pressure, but is Baldomier willing to take shots and test his condition to its limits, cause as i've said, Baldomier doesn't hit hard, so he will have to through many punchs, that can eventuallyl break down Floyd. Baldomiers greatest asset in this fight is that Floyd took him lightly.

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            • bigtime9
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              #16
              What i ment by limited is, he can't box with Mayweather even if he wanted to o, i can't see him being able to cut the ring off on Mayweather cause i dont' think he has the feet to cut off the ring even if he wanted to. And he doesn't have the power to break through Mayweathers guard. And Baldomier is slow comared to Mayweather. And I don't think Baldomier can get Floyd to fight his fight. Can he, yes. But is he willing to do so. In the fights i've seen Baldomier in he hasn't shown me he can fight on the inside, i've seen Mayweather fight on the inside so i know he can if he has too. Floyd wont have his legs for this fight, but i don't think he'll need them. Can Baldomier win, of course he can, but is he willing to make it a dog fight and test his chin, his stamina? We know Mayweather don't like the pressure, but is Baldomier willing to take shots and test his condition to its limits, cause as i've said, Baldomier doesn't hit hard, so he will have to through many punchs, that can eventuallyl break down Floyd. Baldomiers greatest asset in this fight is that Floyd took him lightly.
              your analysis as always is clouded by your bias..after tonight floyd will be the only grand champion in boxing...I would love to see your training video

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              • Mattyp151
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                #17
                This is ridiculous...loose cannon? Head isn't there half the time? Winded? Those words are the exact opposite that Floyd has worked for his entire career. He is hardly a loose cannon, and is one of if not THEE smartest fighter in the ring today.

                Both your views are biased trying to make something out of nothing or just spewing utter bull****. It's pathetic, really.

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                • wmute
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                  #18
                  I dont know about the rope, we dont know what kind of day of training that was but I am curious to see if not having Roger in camp (and tonight in the corner) will make a difference

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                  • omnipotent
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                    #19
                    do you see his 2500 punches combo...

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                    • Del Coqui
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by ferocity
                      I just seen the training video and i seen floyd do his traing, and i seen him do his thing on the bag. Though i don't remember the last time i seen floyd punch in combos, unless im not paying attention which could be the case. And i noticed some things when he was hitting the bag that i didn't like. But then again, he ain't trying to be pefect in front of the public. The training video was impressive, but i seen some that i didn't like, some bad habit you can say. But what really got my attention was when he was jumping rope. Floyd had barley had any air for jumping rope, you could tell he was carring his legs. I wonder how long ago the training video is cause I don't like what i see from floy on the jump rope. I think he may be taking Baldomier lightly, but being Floyd i'll belive that he is not. But imo, don't expect Floyd to use his legs in this fight. And if he does, i'll be very surprised. And i wanted to ask the floyd fans who have probably watching him jump rope before, can he actually jump rope without having to stop and take a breather?
                      Floyd trains like a mad man, he puts in a lotta work in running and sparring, that's basically all you need. Dont worry about the bag or rope man, if you wanna look at him shine watch him punch the mitts, he's incredible there! And he can punch the mitts for a long period of time, that takes more outta you than sparring sometimes.

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