Mayweather is A Prick

[Abe Attell]

I agree, Robinson was amazingly gifted and those who realize that may be very familiar with his work. Ray though brash, had heart and business wit, Mayweather has skill, business wit but his heart is full of hubris; he does not care about making history at this point of his career when he's at his prime, and I say this because he much rather build massive amounts of wealth than build an immortal legacy. What a shame.

Yeah, well it takes two to tango...tell Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, and Delahoya to make the ****ing fight happen already.

How is Mayweather supposed to work with Hatton when the guy is outpricing himself?

Cotto has never called Mayweather out by my understanding, though I stand corrected if I am wrong, but I don't see Arum saying lets make a deal between the two...No, Arum talks about matching Margarito with Floyd, but that was when Floyd was trying to get Oscar to fight him. Now, the 8 million that was offered is off the table and people blame Floyd.

Who else is there? Oh yeah, Oscar. Oscar probably either doesn't want to fight Floyd or is trying to get Floyd to realize he isn't worth 20 million or whatever the price was that he (Floyd) thinks he is worth in a fight between the two. I can see a fare deal being whatever Bernard made fighting Oscar, so about 12-15 million, which would be Mayweather's highest purse to date, based on the numbers that have been released from his other fights if they are accurate.

[Abe Attell]

You can stick the "couch potato" thing straight up your ass. I don't need to have been in his position to know that he's a prick for acting like he does. And where exactly is the earning point set where it becomes ok to be an ass?

Yes, PLENTY of other fighters have equalled and surpassed his earning ability without the need to show his level of disrespectfulness and contempt of other fighters and the fans. Whether they're fighting today or not is irrelevent but I'll throw in DLH for today's sake. People like Ali did it with charisma and wit, and you'd need to have no sense of humour to be unable to realise most of it was tongue in cheek. That's clearly not the case with Floyd.
I've no problem if he wants to make money his main priority, as long as he doesn't try to claim a place alongside the great fighters who fought for a legacy at the same time. His view on things pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with boxing today.

Ali used racist remarks towards Frazier, yeah, what a ****ing great guy he was. The Truth is, it was probably Ali's lighter skin color than Frazier's that made him feel insecure.

I like Ali, but the guy was wrong to do what he did, even if it was supposedly to "Promote" a fight.

Ali's "character" for boxing was supposed to represent the "Right" the "Justice"...it is not like how Tyson changed later on when he was with King and he knew the best way to promote himself was to be a down-right dirty ****er from the streets that brought anger/rage and hatred of his opponent.

[Cletus Funk]

Yeah, Ali went beyond the necessary on a couple of occasions but the good far outweighed the bad.

Say what you like about Tyson but he was respectful of the sport and appreciated it's history, a couple of obvious aberrations aside.

Ali used racist remarks towards Frazier, yeah, what a ****ing great guy he was. The Truth is, it was probably Ali's lighter skin color than Frazier's that made him feel insecure.

I like Ali, but the guy was wrong to do what he did, even if it was supposedly to "Promote" a fight.

Ali's "character" for boxing was supposed to represent the "Right" the "Justice"...it is not like how Tyson changed later on when he was with King and he knew the best way to promote himself was to be a down-right dirty ****er from the streets that brought anger/rage and hatred of his opponent.

[butterfly1964]

PBF certainly does not appreciate the hisory of the sport to be degrading geats like Ali and Robinson, the two best boxers ever.

[xAUGUSTUSx]

Now understand this, I'm a fan of PBF but after watching his interview on ESPN with Brian Kenny yesterday I lost some respect for him. He said he's better than Sugar Ray Robinson and Ali, and when Kenny asked him how is he better when those guys fought way more than him. His answer was, it takes three months to build a paper view fight they couldn't pay me 10 million to fight every month. Personally either he's a dumb ass or he's just so hungry for money staying busy doesn't matter. Fighters back in the 60's and 70's fought like hell without all of this advanced medical technology and workout equipment. If Mayweather is basing his worth as a fighter off of how much he makes a fight he is truly a lost soul.

**** like that pisses me off but I just had to get that off my chest.

He's a dumbass

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You can stick the "couch potato" thing straight up your ass. I don't need to have been in his position to know that he's a prick for acting like he does. And where exactly is the earning point set where it becomes ok to be an ass?

a potato would not fit in my ass, it would probably find more space up yours.

do you make money? do you have a vague idea, what it means to make money. I wouldnt give a **** about what fans had to say, if that meant a few million dollars more are here.

did DLH rematch Quartey? no, and you can bet your ass there was demand for that.

Yes, PLENTY of other fighters have equalled and surpassed his earning ability without the need to show his level of disrespectfulness and contempt of other fighters and the fans. Whether they're fighting today or not is irrelevent but I'll throw in DLH for today's sake. People like Ali did it with charisma and wit, and you'd need to have no sense of humour to be unable to realise most of it was tongue in cheek. That's clearly not the case with Floyd.

as you said, not many of them are active. and if they are not active in todays' boxing system it does not mean much.

as for ali being stylish and tongue in cheek, ask joe frazier wahthe thought about it.
(also ali was so charismatic, that half of the country HATED his guts.)
and again, just to cast a little bit of light on your ignorance, Ali started saying he was the greatest, when he had much less of a case for it than floyd does now. He also said he would beat Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano, long before started making a case for it.

I've no problem if he wants to make money his main priority, as long as he doesn't try to claim a place alongside the great fighters who fought for a legacy at the same time. His view on things pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with boxing today.

I agree completely

[Cletus Funk]

Come on, you know you've had bigger things than a potato in your ass.

You're in no more of a position to know about making big money than anybody else on here, so what the hell are you preaching about?

If I was in the game for a legacy as the greatest, then yes I would give a **** about the fans. He could make more than enough and appease them at the same time. It's just utter greed otherwise.

The DLH point is hardly comparible but I'll answer it anyway. I think the fan's angst was more than placated with fights that followed. I don't remember anyone saying "**** this Trinidad or Mosley ****, I want Quartey...".

Half of the country hated a loud mouthed black man in the 60s? I wonder why that could be? Zilch to do with charisma. If you didn't like him fair enough, but I think his popularity speaks for itself. And how could Ali have less of a case than no case whatsoever? Floyd doesn't have a single achievement that hasn't been easily surpassed on numerous occasions by other fighters. Where's the claim to the GOAT in that? Ali's claims were just the ramblings of a massively ambitious young fighter. Floyd's are that of a bitter fighter nearing the end of his career who probably knows deep down that he's fallen short.

Do you really think that boxing today is significantly different to 10-15 years ago? I'd love you to point out how.

a potato would not fit in my ass, it would probably find more space up yours.

do you make money? do you have a vague idea, what it means to make money. I wouldnt give a **** about what fans had to say, if that meant a few million dollars more are here.

did DLH rematch Quartey? no, and you can bet your ass there was demand for that.

as you said, not many of them are active. and if they are not active in todays' boxing system it does not mean much.

as for ali being stylish and tongue in cheek, ask joe frazier wahthe thought about it.
(also ali was so charismatic, that half of the country HATED his guts.)
and again, just to cast a little bit of light on your ignorance, Ali started saying he was the greatest, when he had much less of a case for it than floyd does now. He also said he would beat Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano, long before started making a case for it.



I agree completely

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Come on, you know you've had bigger things than a potato in your ass.

You're in no more of a position to know about making big money than anybody else on here, so what the hell are you preaching about?

If I was in the game for a legacy as the greatest, then yes I would give a **** about the fans. He could make more than enough and appease them at the same time. It's just utter greed otherwise.

The DLH point is hardly comparible but I'll answer it anyway. I think the fan's angst was more than placated with fights that followed. I don't remember anyone saying "**** this Trinidad or Mosley ****, I want Quartey...".

Half of the country hated a loud mouthed black man in the 60s? I wonder why that could be? Zilch to do with charisma. If you didn't like him fair enough, but I think his popularity speaks for itself. And how could Ali have less of a case than no case whatsoever? Floyd doesn't have a single achievement that hasn't been easily surpassed on numerous occasions by other fighters. Where's the claim to the GOAT in that? Ali's claims were just the ramblings of a massively ambitious young fighter. Floyd's are that of a bitter fighter nearing the end of his career who probably knows deep down that he's fallen short.

Do you really think that boxing today is significantly different to 10-15 years ago? I'd love you to point out how.

you sure are an expert on ass-fitting.

i dont make millions, but I know that I dont leave money slip away to please anyone but my family and friends.

there is never enough money, that's true when you earn 5figs, 6figs, 7figs, 8figs, 9figs... look... how many millionares do you see quitting their job and retiring to enjoy their millions? not many, a minority of them in fact.

Oscar's first fight after Quartey was Carr, not Tito or Mosley. I am sure no fans were screaming to see Oscar fight Oba Carr (who Quartey had already beaten among other things)

I disagree with half of the country hating Ali, I love Ali. half of the country hated him, nonetheless. and he was an ******* to Joe Frazier. you try to depict Ali as a pleasing young man, simply not the case. we might look back now and find his poems and antics funny. that doesnt change that he was an arrogant young man.

i find Floyd's ramblings on him being the greatest ever are ridiculous, but it probably helps him making more money, by stirring controversy.

His claims to greatness are 5 belts in 4 divisions, 3 times lineal champion. all of this before the age of 30.

tell me how many fighters have been lineal champs in 3 divisions?

I can think of

dlh, srl, armstrong, ross, canzoneri.

not a bad company dont you think?

Finally, how is boxin different today?

bcos it is full of idiotic fans who claim a fighter losing a fight is exposed, a bum and so on

[rocco1252]

this is why he will never be widely respected as a fighter.

[Cletus Funk]

Again, I don't really see your point on the money. Floyd's in no different a position to dozens of fighters before him. The businessmen that you speak of are addicted to making deals. Is Floyd addicted to the deals or boxing?

Thanks, but I know where Carr stands in the order of things. We were still only talking a few months before the Trinidad fight so the fans were over it pretty quick. It's not like Oscar was feeding us Bruseles or seriously shot second tier fighters for 3 1/2 years.

Everyone agrees he was out of order with Frazier but it's not like it was the norm. You're also implying that half of the country loved him. I doubt that half of the country even know who Floyd is and do you really think that in 30 years time anybody will look back on anything that Floyd said with fondness?

Those stats of yours are very pretty on the surface but you know as well as I do that they don't reveal the whole story. It's too obvious to spell out so I'll just say that I'll take standard of opposition over lineage every time.

you sure are an expert on ass-fitting.

i dont make millions, but I know that I dont leave money slip away to please anyone but my family and friends.

there is never enough money, that's true when you earn 5figs, 6figs, 7figs, 8figs, 9figs... look... how many millionares do you see quitting their job and retiring to enjoy their millions? not many, a minority of them in fact.

Oscar's first fight after Quartey was Carr, not Tito or Mosley. I am sure no fans were screaming to see Oscar fight Oba Carr (who Quartey had already beaten among other things)

I disagree with half of the country hating Ali, I love Ali. half of the country hated him, nonetheless. and he was an ******* to Joe Frazier. you try to depict Ali as a pleasing young man, simply not the case. we might look back now and find his poems and antics funny. that doesnt change that he was an arrogant young man.

i find Floyd's ramblings on him being the greatest ever are ridiculous, but it probably helps him making more money, by stirring controversy.

His claims to greatness are 5 belts in 4 divisions, 3 times lineal champion. all of this before the age of 30.

tell me how many fighters have been lineal champs in 3 divisions?

I can think of

dlh, srl, armstrong, ross, canzoneri.

not a bad company dont you think?

Finally, how is boxin different today?

bcos it is full of idiotic fans who claim a fighter losing a fight is exposed, a bum and so on