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  • Sir_Jose
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    #31
    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
    Manny Pacquiao won the IBF Flyweight title in December 1998, by which time Mark Johnson had vacated his flyweight belt and moved on up to 115 to campaign.

    Haha kiddo, you might win some but you just lost 1. Pick your face up
    *cracks nuckles*

    Gotta love a Boxrec warrior.

    Ok Johnson moved up like 2 months before Pac won his belt and hadn't even had a fight at 115 by the time Pac won his belt. Pac didn't even hold his belt for a year and only made 1 defense of it, but yeah your right he was hands down the man at 112.

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    • Mr. Ryan
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      #32
      Originally posted by Sir_Jose
      *cracks nuckles*

      Gotta love a Boxrec warrior.

      Ok Johnson moved up like 2 months before Pac won his belt and hadn't even had a fight at 115 by the time Pac won his belt. Pac didn't even hold his belt for a year and only made 1 defense of it, but yeah your right he was hands down the man at 112.
      Now say that was a lovely tea party, sir!

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      • Sir_Jose
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        #33
        Originally posted by Asian Sensation
        Now say that was a lovely tea party, sir!
        explain that

        I never heard it before.

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        • TomRiddle
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          #34
          Originally posted by miron_lang
          TomRIddle


          Im not talking about the RING CHampionship. It has nothing to do with Barrera being the lineal champ.

          i forgot some of the fighters but during the 70's there's 2 existing Featherweight champ. the other retire the other one lost the title to a fighter that will directly bring you to Marco Antonio Barrera. he's the Featherweight lineal CHAMP.

          can somebody pls. help me with those names


          *IF you consider Alphabet champions as a real division champ and your basis. then PAC is a 2 DIVision champion.


          well actually, anybody who wins a Ring Magazine Title was supposed to be the true Champion.

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          • AIR_KENG
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            #35
            Originally posted by PacRules
            to me there are "times" divsion champs and then there are times world champs

            if your win one of the 5 titles WBA IBF WBO WBA RING then your a champ of that divison, but a multiple time world champ is where you are the man in that divsion then move up and become the man in another divsion


            example

            Fighter wins IBF belt at feather
            moves up and wins WBA super feather
            then becomes the World lightweight champ betting the man there making him a 3 time divsion champ and a 1 time world champ in my book

            exceptions apply though in cases like glen johnson/tarver where they were only fighting for the IBO belt i think and other weird cases as well
            that xplains it i think

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            • Mr. Ryan
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              #36
              Originally posted by Sir_Jose
              explain that

              I never heard it before.
              You remember Jay and Silent Bob strike back when Diedreck Bader's character agrees to accept oral sex from males for security checkpoint allowances? He tells them it's OK but they have to say thank you, it was a lovely tea party afterwards.

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              • JOM'S
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                #37
                hey guys the flyweight lineal champions from Jimmy Wilde ...

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                THE CYBER BOXING ZONE
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                THE LINEAL FLYWEIGHT BOXING CHAMPIONS

                The following list gives credit to "The Man Who Beat The Man." As always, ludicrous decisions of "sanctioning bodies" are ignored. We are continually adding biographies and to our complete set of records, so check back. Explore our On-Line Boxing Encyclopedia for more info. Comments can be sent to the Editors.Ciao!

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                * Jimmy Wilde (1916-1923)
                * Pancho Villa [1923 - died of blood poisoning, July 14, 1925]
                * Fidel La Barba [1927 - vacates title 8/23,1927, to enter college]

                1927 to 1937: Title claimants include Pinky Silverberg, Johnny McCoy, Corp. Izzy Schwartz; Frenchy Belanger; Newsboy Brown; Frankie Genaro; Johnny Hill; Spider Pladner; Willie LaMorte; Midget Wolgast; Young Perez; Jackie Brown; and Small Montana. Benny Lynch stopped Jackie Brown in 1935 for general recognition and, in 1937, outpointed Small Montana for universal recognition.

                * Benny Lynch [1937 - forfeits title 6/29/1938]
                * Peter Kane (1938-1943)
                * Jackie Paterson (1943-1948)
                * Rinty Monaghan [1948-1950, retires 4/25]
                * Terry Allen (1950)
                * Salvador "Dado" Marino (1950-1952)
                * Yoshio Shirai (1952-1954)
                * Pascual Perez(1954-1960)
                * Pone Kingpetch (1960-1962)
                * Masahiko "Fighting" Harada (1962-1963)
                * Pone Kingpetch (1963)
                * Hiroyuki Ebihara (1963-1964)
                * Pone Kingpetch (1964-1965)
                * Salvador Burruni (1965-1966)
                * Walter McGowan (1966)
                * Chartchai Chionoi (1966-1969)
                * Efren Torres (1969-1970)
                * Chartchai Chionoi (1970)
                * Erbito Salavarria (1970-1973)
                * Venice Borkorsor [1973, relinquishes title]
                * Miguel Canto S. (1975 -1979)
                * Chan-Hee Park (1979-1980)
                * Shoji Oguma (1980-1981)
                * Antonio Avelar (1981-1982)
                * Prudencio Cardona (1982)
                * Freddie Castillo (1982)
                * Eleoncio Mercedes(1982-1983)
                * Charlie Magri (1983)
                * Frank Cedeno (1983-1984)
                * Koji Kobayashi (1984)
                * Gabriel Bernal (1984)
                * Sot Chitalada (1984-1988)
                * Yong Kang Kim (1988-1989)
                * Sot Chitalada (1989-1991)
                * Maungchai Kittikasem (1991-1992)
                * Yuri Arbachakov (1992-1997)
                * Chartchai Sasakul (1997-1998)
                * Manny Pacquiao (1998-1999)
                * Medgoen 3k-Battery (1999-2000)
                * Malcolm Tunacao (2000-2001)
                * Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (2001 to date)

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                • JOM'S
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                  #38
                  here is for FW ...



                  THE CYBER BOXING ZONE
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                  The Featherweight Champions

                  The following list gives credit to "The Man Who Beat The Man." We are continually adding biographies and full records, so check back Comments can be sent to The Research Staff. Ciao!

                  * Torpedo Billy Murphy (1890-1891)
                  * Young Griffo (1891 moves up in weight)
                  * George Dixon (1891-1897)
                  * Solly Smith (1897-1898)
                  * Dave Sullivan (1898)
                  * George Dixon (1898-1900)
                  * Terry McGovern (1900-1901)
                  * Young Corbett II (1901-1902, vacates title)
                  * Abe Attell (1903-1912)
                  * Johnny Kilbane (1912-1923)
                  * Eugene Criqui (1923)
                  * Johnny Dundee (1923 through August 1924, gave up title)
                  * Louis "Kid" Kaplan (1925, resigned title Jul 1926)
                  * Tony Canzoneri(1928)
                  * Andre Routis (1928-1929)
                  * Bat Battalino (1929- Mar. 1932, relinquishes title)

                  1932-1937: title claimants include Tommy Paul, Kid Chocolate (resigned NBA title 1934), Freddie Miller, Baby Arizmendi, Mike Belloise, and Petey Sarron

                  * Henry Armstrong (1937-1938, vacates title)
                  * Joey Archibald (1939-1940)
                  * Harry Jeffra (1940-1941)
                  * Joey Archibald (1941)
                  * Chalky Wright (1941-1942)
                  * Willie Pep (1942-1948)
                  * Sandy Saddler (1948-1949)
                  * Willie Pep (1949-1950)
                  * Sandy Saddler (1950-1957, retires 1/21/57)
                  * Hogan "Kid" Bassey (1957-1959)
                  * Davey Moore (1959-1963)
                  * Ultiminio "Sugar" Ramos (1963-1964)
                  * Vicente Saldivar (1964 retires October 14, 1967)
                  * Johnny Famechon (1969-1970)
                  * Vicente Saldivar (1970)
                  * Kuniaki Shibata (1970-1972)
                  * Clemente Sanchez (1972)
                  * Jose Legra (1972-1973)
                  * Eder Jofre [1973-1974, fizzles out]
                  * Alexis Arguello (1975-1977, moves up to Junior Lightweight)
                  * Danny Lopez (1979-1980)
                  * Salvador Sanchez (1980-1982, killed in car accident)
                  * Eusebio Pedroza (1983-1986)
                  * Barry McGuigan (1986)
                  * Stevie Cruz (1986-1987)
                  * Antonio Esparragosa (1987-1991)
                  * Yong-Kyun Park (1991-1993)
                  * Eloy Rojas (1993-1996)
                  * Wilfredo Vasquez (1996-1998)
                  * Naseem Hamed (1998 - 2001)
                  * Marco Antonio Barerra (2001-2003)
                  * Manny Pacquiao (2003-2005, moves up to Jr. Lightweight)

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                  • Chups
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                    #39
                    Thanks for this info JOM's which proves miron lang is right.

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                    • miron_lang
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                      #40
                      THANKS JOM's i just got my list from boxrec searching from pedroza.

                      Your list is complete

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