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  • jack_the_rippuh
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    #11
    nevermind.
    I could get banned.

    edit.
    Last edited by jack_the_rippuh; 10-30-2006, 02:52 PM.

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    • Mr. Ryan
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      #12
      In decades past, the illegal exploits of Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo have become ingrained in the fight game's illustrious lore. Tales of fixed fights, threatened managers, intimidated commissions, all of that has been proven to be true of accounts until the early 70's. Now, the mafia and other organized crime has only regional and spotty control of the comings occurring in the ring.

      In the old days, many crime bosses and henchman worked as managers of fighters, who would negotiate with matchmakers and other frightened authorities to set up fights that on paper would be competitive, except for the criminal aspect that people wouldn't take into account. Other things would be extortion, where you would be frozen out by lucrative venues if you didn't sign over certain entitlements to the organized crime syndicate. Come to think of it, that sounds an awful lot like when certain promoters request options on fighters to challenge for their titles, huh?

      Put two and two together and you have the evolution of Boxing and Organized Crime.

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      • eazy_mas
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        #13
        Originally posted by Asian Sensation
        In decades past, the illegal exploits of Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo have become ingrained in the fight game's illustrious lore. Tales of fixed fights, threatened managers, intimidated commissions, all of that has been proven to be true of accounts until the early 70's. Now, the mafia and other organized crime has only regional and spotty control of the comings occurring in the ring.

        In the old days, many crime bosses and henchman worked as managers of fighters, who would negotiate with matchmakers and other frightened authorities to set up fights that on paper would be competitive, except for the criminal aspect that people wouldn't take into account. Other things would be extortion, where you would be frozen out by lucrative venues if you didn't sign over certain entitlements to the organized crime syndicate. Come to think of it, that sounds an awful lot like when certain promoters request options on fighters to challenge for their titles, huh?

        Put two and two together and you have the evolution of Boxing and Organized Crime.
        Who is the most feared man in boxing business as a buisness man not a fighters?

        I still feel like there is someone calling the shots. but now they become much more smarter and not try to make to much of the terror tatics

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        • Mr. Ryan
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          #14
          Originally posted by eazy_mas
          Who is the most feared man in boxing business as a buisness man not a fighters?

          I still feel like there is someone calling the shots. but now they become much more smarter and not try to make to much of the terror tatics
          The thing is that boxing is a public business, in a sense it is owned by the people who pay money to see the fights, they are the shareholders. To leave the shareholders at ease, the CEO's must project a calming and reassuring aura to the public so as to show that all is well with their investments.

          Thus, we have the personalities that we see in promoters. Boxing promotion is the new wave of organized crime running the show. Business and crime are separated by a line so fine as to leave no room to distinguish where one begins, where the other ends, and where they overlap.

          While today's environment of sports is not as forbidding as the days when Chicago crime organizations were the effective commission, it is still a world where semantics and business-sense rule supreme over principle and ethics.

          My only proposal would be the National Sanctioning committee that the sport has been toying with for several years. The fate of the sport is in Sen. John McCain's hands now.

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          • Darkstar
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            #15
            I guess nobody ever seen the true story of DON KING? Many many shady deals with boxing. Most of all money.

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            • BARNWOOD
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              #16
              Chris Eubank, Simply The Best, Insists Fights Are Fixed

              Certainly Some Of His Fights Seemed To Be Fixed. Dan Schommer Fight Was Definately A Fix Eubank Admits He Only Got The Decision Due To 'politics'. His Second Fight With Steve Collins Was Clearly Supposed To Be Fixed For Eubank To Get The Dec And Pave Way For Benn V Eubank 3 At Wembley For 15 Mill. Collins Hardly Lost A Round Yet It Was Split. Would Of Been A Riot If Eubank Got The Dec

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              • Nate Dogg
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                #17
                did any you guys think the guzman barros fight was a fix.
                i think what happend was barros was suppose to get the decision or something but it was too unrealistic to give him it the fight went too split deciesion but guzman won every round

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                • Job
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                  #18
                  People like Don King has taken over that job, but I dont think there is any fixed matches anymore, just people like King ****ing fighters over.

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                  • eazy_mas
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    The thing is that boxing is a public business, in a sense it is owned by the people who pay money to see the fights, they are the shareholders. To leave the shareholders at ease, the CEO's must project a calming and reassuring aura to the public so as to show that all is well with their investments.

                    Thus, we have the personalities that we see in promoters. Boxing promotion is the new wave of organized crime running the show. Business and crime are separated by a line so fine as to leave no room to distinguish where one begins, where the other ends, and where they overlap.

                    While today's environment of sports is not as forbidding as the days when Chicago crime organizations were the effective commission, it is still a world where semantics and business-sense rule supreme over principle and ethics.

                    My only proposal would be the National Sanctioning committee that the sport has been toying with for several years. The fate of the sport is in Sen. John McCain's hands now.
                    Sen. McCain that mean there is a lot of money invovle.

                    the share thing is done with many companies where the manpulaite the prices of the shares and at the end the small investors like me and you are getting nicked.

                    As for Don King stuff. I dont think he really controls his promotional company i tihnk there is man behind this man.

                    He is more powerful than you think this Don King

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