Boxing and organized crimes

**Verstyle** · 10-30-2006, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by eazy_mas

There is alway these stuff of mafia and gang invovle in boxing that i seen in the movies but as in here i never seen a thread talk about it.

I belive that some of the decesion in boxing invovle a hidden person that controls the the whole shots. There is so much money invovle in ******** that everyone want a piece of it.

What do you think?

well the 80s tyson did hear **** on it

**eazy_mas** · 10-30-2006, 01:28 AM

i think there is still now but its a bit well organize.

They wont take many fights but for example there is the Mayweather-Baldomir coming up and the favor to ratio of betting is like 1/5 or may be more favoring Mayweather.

They could go there and teld the organization that like WBC officals or judges that to let Baldomire take the decesion or talk to Mayweather and make a deal with him.

so if the gambled with $1 mil the profit is 4Mil more and that is easy money

**titozhang** · 10-30-2006, 02:53 AM

big fight invovle big money,

They have much difficulty to take these fights

**Mistadobalina** · 10-30-2006, 03:00 AM

liston was notoriously linked with the mob, no doubt about it.

**Krucial** · 10-30-2006, 03:30 AM

true

i heard Marciano fought an opponent(forgot his name,ill remember it tho) who was in debt with the mob
they told em they'd kill em if he didnt let rocky beat em

this is very true

n Liston tried to cheat Ali once
wen he put that substance on his glove n rubbed it all in ali's eye
but ali overcame that

**eazy_mas** · 10-30-2006, 04:15 AM

anything that there is money the mobs come to it.

they are like virus.

and some people think there tough but when you read more about there stories there are no buch of cowards and backstabbers

**AJ53** · 10-30-2006, 06:14 AM

many years ago boxing was run by murderers and thieves who had the power to make results happen.
the most famous case of this was jake la motta "going into the tank" against billy fox to get his shot at marcel cerdan.
altough la motta wasnt a mob fighter the scene in raging bull when his brother joey was told "he can beat all the sugar ray robinsons in the world but he aint gonna get a shot at that title, not without us" sums it all up.

sonny lison was also owned by mobsters that is why their will always be conspiracy theories over his fights with ali.

but in todays boxing the only criminals are the sanctioning bodies who rate fighters because they can bring in huge sanctioning fees.
the judges who are wined and dined by a promoter who's fighter they will be judging the next day.
and the promoters who dont make fights for the good of boxing but for the good of their own wealth.
just because they dont wear pinky rings and fedora hats no more doesnt mean they dont exist.
they are just more accepted as part of the game.
i mean in what other sport do you see a champion get beat and still keep his title because the challenger didnt pay the sanctioning body?

**Crazy Dude** · 10-30-2006, 09:14 AM

Las Vegas used to be totally run by the Mafia. Nowadays corporations run it. I think it’s the same thing with boxing.

**eazy_mas** · 10-30-2006, 02:42 PM

I think they still contorl them but in a better manner than when they used too.

usually there is many things happening around use that corrupation in sport is the last thing you tihnk about it.

If you seen undeafted the movie where the guy from Blade fights with the guy from bodygaurd of Demi Moore in stripper. at the end of the movie where they thank the people they thanked someone and contuined with "...
boxing alway was a ***ish sport."

people started to think alot more and they dont want to get invovle directly like they used to be but with links and connection so theydont be in the spotlight or with bad publicity.

There are many cases or bad judgment and I never heard any investagtion on it.

Boxing and organized crimes