Cant wait for November 4th

[jai mari078]

Oscar is only 2 inches taller than Floyd, but both of them started their careers at Super Featherweight. Oscar went up to middleweight by getting a controversial decision, IMO for me he only went up till 154 legitly and so will floyd when he fights oscar for the wbc light middleweight title and beat him. I am one of the biggest floyd fans in this website and I agree if someone says floyd will beat oscar easily it wud be a bold statement, IMO Floyd would win a UD over oscar but it would'nt be onesided, something like 116-112.

It has nothing to do with their height. Oscar is naturally the bigger man and carries the weight better. Floyd relies on speed and quickness which by moving to welter he's already lost a little of that he doesn't look as quick as he did at the lower weight classes, not to mention the fact that he has never been a big puncher to begin with. He's already a small welter Floyd will not hurt Oscar. Oscar has been in there with big punchers such as Vargas when he was still very god and Mayorga who granted isn't a very good boxer but has a big punch and he took there shots well, you think Floyd will be able to hurt him your sick. Oscar has a good chin.As I said Floyd relies on his speed and quickness and when guys like that move up in weight it eventually catches up to them, look at what happened to Mosley when he moved to 154, and in his prime may have been faster than Floyd. Mosley relied on his speed but had a better punch than Floyd. Also you totally contradicted yourself in your post. First you said that you agree that Floyd would win weasily, than you said that it wouldn't be one sided. Make up your mind. Even at this stage in Oscars career is still very good and if you think Floyd would beat him easily, you are gonna be dissapointed. You saw what happened when Oscar is motivated ad trains properly. You saw what happened to Mayorga. I'm not comparing Floyd to Mayorga but Oscar will be very motivated and well prepared, not to mention he wouldn't want to go out with a loss. It would be a good fight and if you don't think Oscar could win, tyhan you are ignorant. I know it is hard to see past your blinders but you need to open your eyes. I don't care for Floyd at all but I am not ignorant enough to think he can't win. That's the problem with Floyd fans, you'll think he in invinceable, like he's some kind of God or something. News flash everyone is beatable and everyone eventually loses, and Floyd is no different.

[potatoes]

Considering that Judah couldn't convince this man to stop coming forward, I think it's safe to say that Baldomir will never be KO'ed unless he gets in the ring with Taylor at 160.

....or Margarito at 147.

[cortdawg25]

It has nothing to do with their height. Oscar is naturally the bigger man and carries the weight better. Floyd relies on speed and quickness which by moving to welter he's already lost a little of that he doesn't look as quick as he did at the lower weight classes, not to mention the fact that he has never been a big puncher to begin with. He's already a small welter Floyd will not hurt Oscar. Oscar has been in there with big punchers such as Vargas when he was still very god and Mayorga who granted isn't a very good boxer but has a big punch and he took there shots well, you think Floyd will be able to hurt him your sick. Oscar has a good chin.As I said Floyd relies on his speed and quickness and when guys like that move up in weight it eventually catches up to them, look at what happened to Mosley when he moved to 154, and in his prime may have been faster than Floyd. Mosley relied on his speed but had a better punch than Floyd. Also you totally contradicted yourself in your post. First you said that you agree that Floyd would win weasily, than you said that it wouldn't be one sided. Make up your mind. Even at this stage in Oscars career is still very good and if you think Floyd would beat him easily, you are gonna be dissapointed. You saw what happened when Oscar is motivated ad trains properly. You saw what happened to Mayorga. I'm not comparing Floyd to Mayorga but Oscar will be very motivated and well prepared, not to mention he wouldn't want to go out with a loss. It would be a good fight and if you don't think Oscar could win, tyhan you are ignorant. I know it is hard to see past your blinders but you need to open your eyes. I don't care for Floyd at all but I am not ignorant enough to think he can't win. That's the problem with Floyd fans, you'll think he in invinceable, like he's some kind of God or something. News flash everyone is beatable and everyone eventually loses, and Floyd is no different.

It doesn't even matter Oscar is not going to fight him. He is retired and looking for any kind of excuse to avoid this fight rather than retire. That's what the whole tito saga was, Oscar is retired and will remain retired.

And by the way, Floyd doesn't just rely upon speed. He is technically sound, the guy has great fundamentals and that is why he is able to move up in weight. Roy was someone who relied upon speed and quickness, not Floyd. And you are right that oscar has a chance of beating him especially if he connects flushly. The only problem is that is hard to do. I know you don't like Zab, but Oscar's handspeed is nowhere near Zab's and he wasn't able to land effectivley so logically speaking neither will Oscar. Also, Oscar has a problem with fighters that are technically sound and have faster hands thus: Sugar Shane Mosley,Bernard Hopkins, Pernell Whitaker.

[RisAri0]

i find it kinda funny how Floyd always states that he's going to entertain the fans and PERFORM at his best...NOT saying thats its going to be a good FIGHT, but PERFORMANCE by him....which means its a challenge for him to not beat baldomir but ways to look good in the ring while doing so....

[Mishra100]

No...you said it would resemble Mayweather vs. Corrales. So basically you see Mayweather dropping Baldomir several times and winning a TKO? Surely you don't mean the other way around?

So what did I misunderstand?

If you want to know what I meant... I meant the fact that baldomir will be trying to walk down Mayweather and Baldomir will be throwing and missing shots all night. Baldomir will also be frustrated like Corrales was.

[jai mari078]

It doesn't even matter Oscar is not going to fight him. He is retired and looking for any kind of excuse to avoid this fight rather than retire. That's what the whole tito saga was, Oscar is retired and will remain retired.

And by the way, Floyd doesn't just rely upon speed. He is technically sound, the guy has great fundamentals and that is why he is able to move up in weight. Roy was someone who relied upon speed and quickness, not Floyd. And you are right that oscar has a chance of beating him especially if he connects flushly. The only problem is that is hard to do. I know you don't like Zab, but Oscar's handspeed is nowhere near Zab's and he wasn't able to land effectivley so logically speaking neither will Oscar. Also, Oscar has a problem with fighters that are technically sound and have faster hands thus: Sugar Shane Mosley,Bernard Hopkins, Pernell Whitaker.

Oscar is not looking for excuses, and this fight is gonna happen because there is too much money involved. i will admith that I wanted to see this fight this year, but I have no problem with Oscar wanting to be 100% and wanting to come into this fight healthy. You have to remember Oscar isn't as young as he used to be. I would rather wait and see both fighters at there best than to come in, in half ass shape. Oscar has never backed down from anyone and you think he is afraid of Floyd PLEASE!!!! He move up to middleweight and fought B-Hop, when everyone knew that was too much weight for him and still fought a competitive fight until he went down. Oscar is not avoiding Floyd.You want to talk about a fight that will never happen we should talk about Floyd and Marg, but that's beside the point. Comparing Oscar and Zab is a terrible comparison because speed is the only thing that Zab has over Oscar and it pretty much ends there. Zab is not even near Oscars league in any aspect. Oscar is a better boxer, technically better, extremely smarter, has better defense, still one of the best jabs in all of boxing when he uses it consistantly it sets up the rest of his punches. The other and probably one of the biggest thing he has over Zab is that he is mentall tougher not to mention a better chin. He also knows how to make adjustments during a fight when something isn't working and find other ways to beat you, one thing we all know Zab can't do. So comparing Zab and Oscar is a terrible example. Your right Mosley did give Oscar problems but Oscar didn't use his jab in those fights and try and box him, he tried to brawl with him and out muscle him, he won't make that mistake with Floyd. I beleive it would be a technical fight, with Oscar setting up his punches using his jab and looking to land his left hook.A good jab if used properly can offset speed. I also beleive that Floyd would fight a very cautious fight and not take as many chances knowing that Oscar is a very good bhoxer and if he makes a mistaake Oscar could catch him. It would be a good fight, but at 154 I would have to give Oscar the advantage. Floyd does have a good dedense, but don't forget that Oscar does as well and he's not just gonna get caught sleeping. The difference is, that Floyd can't hurt Oscar but if Floyd gets caught Oscar is gonna put him on his ass. Oscar will be ready and well prepared, Oscar has been on the big stage many times against every major opponent and you think all of a sudden Floyd is gonna fluster him, if thats what you think you are gonna be real dissapointed. It will be a good fight.

[cortdawg25]

Oscar is not looking for excuses, and this fight is gonna happen because there is too much money involved. i will admith that I wanted to see this fight this year, but I have no problem with Oscar wanting to be 100% and wanting to come into this fight healthy. You have to remember Oscar isn't as young as he used to be. I would rather wait and see both fighters at there best than to come in, in half ass shape. Oscar has never backed down from anyone and you think he is afraid of Floyd PLEASE!!!! He move up to middleweight and fought B-Hop, when everyone knew that was too much weight for him and still fought a competitive fight until he went down. Oscar is not avoiding Floyd.You want to talk about a fight that will never happen we should talk about Floyd and Marg, but that's beside the point. Comparing Oscar and Zab is a terrible comparison because speed is the only thing that Zab has over Oscar and it pretty much ends there. Zab is not even near Oscars league in any aspect. Oscar is a better boxer, technically better, extremely smarter, has better defense, still one of the best jabs in all of boxing when he uses it consistantly it sets up the rest of his punches. The other and probably one of the biggest thing he has over Zab is that he is mentall tougher not to mention a better chin. He also knows how to make adjustments during a fight when something isn't working and find other ways to beat you, one thing we all know Zab can't do. So comparing Zab and Oscar is a terrible example. Your right Mosley did give Oscar problems but Oscar didn't use his jab in those fights and try and box him, he tried to brawl with him and out muscle him, he won't make that mistake with Floyd. I beleive it would be a technical fight, with Oscar setting up his punches using his jab and looking to land his left hook.A good jab if used properly can offset speed. I also beleive that Floyd would fight a very cautious fight and not take as many chances knowing that Oscar is a very good bhoxer and if he makes a mistaake Oscar could catch him. It would be a good fight, but at 154 I would have to give Oscar the advantage. Floyd does have a good dedense, but don't forget that Oscar does as well and he's not just gonna get caught sleeping. The difference is, that Floyd can't hurt Oscar but if Floyd gets caught Oscar is gonna put him on his ass. Oscar will be ready and well prepared, Oscar has been on the big stage many times against every major opponent and you think all of a sudden Floyd is gonna fluster him, if thats what you think you are gonna be real dissapointed. It will be a good fight.

Oscar scared, that's absurd. i never said that but I do think he is looking for excuses not to fight and eventually he is just going to retire. Also I wasn't comparing Oscar and Zab and their overall abilities, just their hand speed to support my argument. Zabs hand are definitely faster and they were ineffective against Floyd so therefore Oscar will be in effective. Now if you think he can use his jab and setup that left hook, ok, that remains to be seen. I just don't think that Oscar can get that left hook off fast enough to land. Also, I think Floyd can hurt Oscar. Maybe not with 1 punch, but with repetitive relentless body blows that will challenge the old man's already suspect stamina. And then add in the fact that he will have to chase Floyd down the whole fight, he wasn't even able to chase down an aged Whitaker in his prime so what makes u think he going to cutoff the ring at 33 against one of the quickest boxers ever in the sport. I don't care if it is at 154 or not, Oscar has a lot of obstacles to overcome and who is he going to tuneup against to get him ready, Mosley.

[K-DOGG]

....or Margarito at 147.

I honestly believe Baldomir would stop Margarito in teh later rounds....and wouldn't be stopped by him at all.