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  • jai mari078
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    #71
    Originally posted by potatoes
    This is the kind of crap-article written by morons who don't know the business of boxing. Maragrito does not have a large fan base consequently he has become one of the many boxing scavengers. He has to wait for the big fights to come to him. Why should Mayweather fight him? It's a big risk with little reward. He can make as much money fighting easier opponents. Inevitably some moron is going to say: "Margarito should step it up!" One thing I have noticed is that most of the noise in boxing is coming from morons who don't have a clue.
    You just said it yourself "He can make more money fighthing easier opponents", It's all about the money and that is what is wrong with Mayweather. He would rather take lesser opposition pick up parer titles and make as much money as possible. That is the difference from Floyd and guys like Winky,Oscar,Shane,Tito,Vargas,B-Hop,Morales,Pac,Barerra,Morales, hell even Taylor in his short career. I'm not gonna say these guys aren't about making money, but they also never backed down from anyone and I couple of these guys I really don't care for bein Tito and Taylor but I respect them. I mean I thin Taylor is overrated but he did fight B-Hop twice and Winky in his last three fights and now he is fighting Ouma which is no push over. In his last four fights, you have to respect that wether you like the guy or not. That is what seperates these types of guys from Floyd he has not consistantly fought elite competition to this point, and that is why I have a problem with him being considered P4P. Based on pure skills he may be the most gifted fighter in boxing right now, but that doesn't make him P4P. P4P is consistantly fighting and beating the best. It just seems Floyd is more concerned with side stepping, taking the easier rout, making the most money possible and picking up paper titles. I'm not saying that Baldy isn't legit, but he is a B rate fighter at best and I don't want to hear about Corrales and Castillo because that was like 5 years ago. I love Gatti but he is damaged goods and way passed his prime, and don't even get me started on Zab. Zab has a glass jaw an has always been overrated besides that fight didn't mean as much especially after he lost to Baldy. He should have never even gotten that fight after that loss. If he couldn't be prepared properly with the biggest fight of his life riding on the outcome tells you a little bit about the type of fighter he is. Zab has all the talent in the world but can mentally never put it together and melts down in every major fight he is in. All the talent and skills in the world don't mean **** if you can't mentally prepare yourself to use them. So if the business of boxing is making the most money possible taking the easiest route possible according to you, than boxing is getting pretty sad.

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    • SalvaDominicano
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      #72
      Originally posted by jai mari078
      You just said it yourself "He can make more money fighthing easier opponents", It's all about the money and that is what is wrong with Mayweather. He would rather take lesser opposition pick up parer titles and make as much money as possible. That is the difference from Floyd and guys like Winky,Oscar,Shane,Tito,Vargas,B-Hop,Morales,Pac,Barerra,Morales, hell even Taylor in his short career. I'm not gonna say these guys aren't about making money, but they also never backed down from anyone and I couple of these guys I really don't care for bein Tito and Taylor but I respect them. I mean I thin Taylor is overrated but he did fight B-Hop twice and Winky in his last three fights and now he is fighting Ouma which is no push over. In his last four fights, you have to respect that wether you like the guy or not. That is what seperates these types of guys from Floyd he has not consistantly fought elite competition to this point, and that is why I have a problem with him being considered P4P. Based on pure skills he may be the most gifted fighter in boxing right now, but that doesn't make him P4P. P4P is consistantly fighting and beating the best. It just seems Floyd is more concerned with side stepping, taking the easier rout, making the most money possible and picking up paper titles. I'm not saying that Baldy isn't legit, but he is a B rate fighter at best and I don't want to hear about Corrales and Castillo because that was like 5 years ago. I love Gatti but he is damaged goods and way passed his prime, and don't even get me started on Zab. Zab has a glass jaw an has always been overrated besides that fight didn't mean as much especially after he lost to Baldy. He should have never even gotten that fight after that loss. If he couldn't be prepared properly with the biggest fight of his life riding on the outcome tells you a little bit about the type of fighter he is. Zab has all the talent in the world but can mentally never put it together and melts down in every major fight he is in. All the talent and skills in the world don't mean **** if you can't mentally prepare yourself to use them. So if the business of boxing is making the most money possible taking the easiest route possible according to you, than boxing is getting pretty sad.
      perfect post. karma for u.

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      • Mr. Ryan
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        #73
        Flibjefrox has alot of good topics for his writing.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #74
          Margarito sucks

          get mad

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          • jai mari078
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            #75
            Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
            perfect post. karma for u.
            Appreciate the props Salva!!!!!

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              #76
              Originally posted by jai mari078
              You just said it yourself "He can make more money fighthing easier opponents", It's all about the money and that is what is wrong with Mayweather. He would rather take lesser opposition pick up parer titles and make as much money as possible. That is the difference from Floyd and guys like Winky,Oscar,Shane,Tito,Vargas,B-Hop,Morales,Pac,Barerra,Morales, hell even Taylor in his short career. I'm not gonna say these guys aren't about making money, but they also never backed down from anyone and I couple of these guys I really don't care for bein Tito and Taylor but I respect them. I mean I thin Taylor is overrated but he did fight B-Hop twice and Winky in his last three fights and now he is fighting Ouma which is no push over. In his last four fights, you have to respect that wether you like the guy or not. That is what seperates these types of guys from Floyd he has not consistantly fought elite competition to this point, and that is why I have a problem with him being considered P4P. Based on pure skills he may be the most gifted fighter in boxing right now, but that doesn't make him P4P. P4P is consistantly fighting and beating the best. It just seems Floyd is more concerned with side stepping, taking the easier rout, making the most money possible and picking up paper titles. I'm not saying that Baldy isn't legit, but he is a B rate fighter at best and I don't want to hear about Corrales and Castillo because that was like 5 years ago. I love Gatti but he is damaged goods and way passed his prime, and don't even get me started on Zab. Zab has a glass jaw an has always been overrated besides that fight didn't mean as much especially after he lost to Baldy. He should have never even gotten that fight after that loss. If he couldn't be prepared properly with the biggest fight of his life riding on the outcome tells you a little bit about the type of fighter he is. Zab has all the talent in the world but can mentally never put it together and melts down in every major fight he is in. All the talent and skills in the world don't mean **** if you can't mentally prepare yourself to use them. So if the business of boxing is making the most money possible taking the easiest route possible according to you, than boxing is getting pretty sad.
              This is the usual hypocrisy of Margarito fans...

              You say Floyd Mayweather should fight the best. It shouldn't be about the money. Well, the only reason to fight Margarito that you guys ever come up with is the 8 million that was offered to Mayweather. Aside from the money, Mayweather has no other reason to fight Margarito because his career to this point is a failure. He is a failure because he hasn't done either of the two things that make people want to fight you: he's not a big name in the sport and he's not considered the best in the division he's in...

              Up until recently, no one really cared about Margarito. He was just some random title holder at welterweight. He is just now trying to create some buzz for himself by calling out Mayweather and throwing bags of money his way, but he's still an unknown and 30,000 PPV buys for his last fight is proof of that.

              Also, Margarito has failed to fight any legitimate top 5 welterweights during his 10 years at welterweight. There is just no viable argument you could make saying Margarito is the best 147 has to offer. He has fought lower top 10 welterweights at best and he lost to the best opponent he has faced (Daneil Santos).

              Saying Mayweather shouldn't fight just for money is a joke when that is all Margarito brings to the table. And don't forget it's about the money for Margarito too. Mayweather would bring him his biggest payday...

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              • El Jesus
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                #77
                Originally posted by SiN
                This is the usual hypocrisy of Margarito fans...

                You say Floyd Mayweather should fight the best. It shouldn't be about the money. Well, the only reason to fight Margarito that you guys ever come up with is the 8 million that was offered to Mayweather. Aside from the money, Mayweather has no other reason to fight Margarito because his career to this point is a failure. He is a failure because he hasn't done either of the two things that make people want to fight you: he's not a big name in the sport and he's not considered the best in the division he's in...

                Up until recently, no one really cared about Margarito. He was just some random title holder at welterweight. He is just now trying to create some buzz for himself by calling out Mayweather and throwing bags of money his way, but he's still an unknown and 30,000 PPV buys for his last fight is proof of that.

                Also, Margarito has failed to fight any legitimate top 5 welterweights during his 10 years at welterweight. There is just no viable argument you could make saying Margarito is the best 147 has to offer. He has fought lower top 10 welterweights at best and he lost to the best opponent he has faced (Daneil Santos).

                Saying Mayweather shouldn't fight just for money is a joke when that is all Margarito brings to the table. And don't forget it's about the money for Margarito too. Mayweather would bring him his biggest payday...

                There is some legitamacy to whats being said here because at this point margarito isnt going to the hall of fame, whereas DLH/Mosley are, Baldomir is the ring champion, those 3 fights mean alot. Margarito doesnt bring a hall of fame career with him, he has one belt that nobody really cares about, and he doesnt have any hall of famers on his resume. Whats being said here is absolutely true, and even i myself didint think about it in a way that, if floyd shouldnt be fighting for money, and thats all your opponent brings, then the fight should be about pride/accolades in the future, margarito just doesnt have those accolades right now to make the fight worthy, and no matterhow you much you want to argue around this fact, what im saying is absolutely true!

                Dont bring up the past, saying **** like "OMG WHAT DID MITCHELL BRING, OMG WHAT DID BRUSSELES DO OMG OMG OMG" because if thats the case then margarito's past is far worse off, regardless those fights were eliminators/weight class shifting fights anyway which in the scheme of things setup mayweather to get the big PPV's that he has HEADLINED and people CARED ABOUT.

                If you look at the present, right here right now, Mosley/Hatton/DLH/Baldomir all have something that the fans know about, whereas margarito only has that hardcore mexican following and some floyd detractors.Hatton fans tend to be HUGE floyd haters, the difference, Hatton is a name, and is his countries most popular fighter, this isnt the case for margarito, he doesnt bring enough haters to the table. (Not that i blame people for hating mayweather).

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #78
                  margarito usually does very well against his opponents, however those opponents are either fringe contenders or nobodies at best.

                  its one of those "looking good against bad fighters" kinda things.

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                  • SalvaDominicano
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                    #79
                    if you look at Floyd's resume margarito would destory every single one of them with the exception of castillo cuz they're both monsters. and dont even get me started on philip ndou he had a high KO percentage from fighting bums. after mayweather his career went nowhere. Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez.. great fighters but just too small. Corrales' chin wouldnt hold up. Zab's chin... dont even get me started. Corley and Sosa cant take the heat as cotto proved. Gatti and Mitchell are passed their prime.

                    Now put it in reverse, i think Mayweather would have a much harder time fighting Margarito's opponents. and dont even get started on the weight issue. he is YOUR p4p king so there should be no excuses.

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                    • El Jesus
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SalvaDominicano
                      if you look at Floyd's resume margarito would destory every single one of them with the exception of castillo cuz they're both monsters. and dont even get me started on philip ndou he had a high KO percentage from fighting bums. after mayweather his career went nowhere. Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez.. great fighters but just too small. Corrales' chin wouldnt hold up. Zab's chin... dont even get me started. Corley and Sosa cant take the heat as cotto proved. Gatti and Mitchell are passed their prime.

                      Now put it in reverse, i think Mayweather would have a much harder time fighting Margarito's opponents. and dont even get started on the weight issue. he is YOUR p4p king so there should be no excuses.
                      If your talking p4p matchups between those guys, all i have to do is point to daniel santos, you cant use that argument by that default alone.

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