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  • ferocity
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    #161
    Originally posted by raymon123
    Future? lol. Zab stop spinks bad while diaz didn't come close of stopping spinks.

    You know that when Judah FIRST fought Spinks, Spinks won a descision right?


    Originally posted by raymon123
    And diaz was one of mosley left overs lol. Didn't mosley stop diaz bad in 2000? lol. Give me a break. Whocares diaz was a nobody.
    Diaz was a jr. welterweight, the divsion he made a name for himself and the weight he fought at was jr. welterweight. He was a hbo fighter, and basicly a espn fighter. Koysta Tszyu was the champion at the time, guess what, he wasn't even looking to fight Diaz, while many even Hbo thought it'd be a tremendous fight. So what does he and hbo do.....they offer him a shot at Mosley title since they know Tszyu doesn't want to risk his title against. Diaz moved up in weight to fight Mosley, and Diaz had Mosley back pedalling for almost the entire fight. Diaz didn't have a granite chin, he had a good chin but not granite and it showed against Mosley. Nothing to be ashamed of loseing to Mosley especially when Diaz went up in weight to fight him. That nobody would have given mayweather hell, mayweather wouldn't be able to hurt him.

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    • Street Made
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      #162
      Originally posted by ferocity
      You know that when Judah FIRST fought Spinks, Spinks won a descision right?




      Diaz was a jr. welterweight, the divsion he made a name for himself and the weight he fought at was jr. welterweight. He was a hbo fighter, and basicly a espn fighter. Koysta Tszyu was the champion at the time, guess what, he wasn't even looking to fight Diaz, while many even Hbo thought it'd be a tremendous fight. So what does he and hbo do.....they offer him a shot at Mosley title since they know Tszyu doesn't want to risk his title against. Diaz moved up in weight to fight Mosley, and Diaz had Mosley back pedalling for almost the entire fight. Diaz didn't have a granite chin, he had a good chin but not granite and it showed against Mosley. Nothing to be ashamed of loseing to Mosley especially when Diaz went up in weight to fight him. That nobody would have given mayweather hell, mayweather wouldn't be able to hurt him.

      The Spinks win was a gift for Diaz. And he did not back up Mosley the whole fight. You need to watch that fight over. It was completely one-sided. Why are you even building Diaz up for?

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        #163
        Originally posted by Street Made
        The Spinks win was a gift for Diaz. And he did not back up Mosley the whole fight. You need to watch that fight over. It was completely one-sided. Why are you even building Diaz up for?
        Because he wants to make margarito look like he beat a name fighter lol. So what if diaz move up to fight mosley that's no excuse. Mosley skip 140 pounds to fight delahoya at 147 pounds and mosley clearly beat oscar in the first fight. In my opinion i thought spinks beat diaz but oh well. Diaz beside a gift decision over spinks beat a bunch of nobodys.

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          #164
          Originally posted by ferocity
          You know that when Judah FIRST fought Spinks, Spinks won a descision right?




          Diaz was a jr. welterweight, the divsion he made a name for himself and the weight he fought at was jr. welterweight. He was a hbo fighter, and basicly a espn fighter. Koysta Tszyu was the champion at the time, guess what, he wasn't even looking to fight Diaz, while many even Hbo thought it'd be a tremendous fight. So what does he and hbo do.....they offer him a shot at Mosley title since they know Tszyu doesn't want to risk his title against. Diaz moved up in weight to fight Mosley, and Diaz had Mosley back pedalling for almost the entire fight. Diaz didn't have a granite chin, he had a good chin but not granite and it showed against Mosley. Nothing to be ashamed of loseing to Mosley especially when Diaz went up in weight to fight him. That nobody would have given mayweather hell, mayweather wouldn't be able to hurt him.

          You mean when spinks escape the decision in the first zab fight right? cause spinks got soo lucky that zab didn't knock him down in 2 minutes earlier.

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          • ferocity
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            #165
            Originally posted by Street Made
            The Spinks win was a gift for Diaz. And he did not back up Mosley the whole fight. You need to watch that fight over. It was completely one-sided. Why are you even building Diaz up for?
            Judges didn't givve points to the runner.

            Im not building him up, i used to follow his career, and know his career and know what he can do, the guy was a good fighter, he deserved to have a shot at Tszyu, too bad he had to move up to fight Mosley. At one time Tszyu was going to fight Ward, who just came off a lose to Diaz, now that fight didn't come off but why didn't he ever fight Diaz, he was a good fighter and thats all im saying. Im not trying to build him up anymore then what he was, a good fighter.


            Originally posted by raymon123
            Because he wants to make margarito look like he beat a name fighter lol. So what if diaz move up to fight mosley that's no excuse. Mosley skip 140 pounds to fight delahoya at 147 pounds and mosley clearly beat oscar in the first fight. In my opinion i thought spinks beat diaz but oh well. Diaz beside a gift decision over spinks beat a bunch of nobodys.

            Diaz didn't get blown out, and as i said Tszyu didn't want to fight him so hbo set him up with Mosley. If you think their nobodies then you have to go back to elementary school.

            A few of fighters that Diaz beat, guess what, Judah fought too.



            Originally posted by raymon123
            You mean when spinks escape the decision in the first zab fight right? cause spinks got soo lucky that zab didn't knock him down in 2 minutes earlier.

            this sounds like a newbie excuess.

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              #166
              IMO Tsyzu is one of the few fighters that could beat Mayweather jr.?

              saying that he didnt want to fight Daiz is wierd because its mre risky to fight Tszyu than to fight Mosely.

              and eveyone know Tszyu boxing skills, power as well as reflexes

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                #167
                Originally posted by ferocity
                Judges didn't givve points to the runner.

                Im not building him up, i used to follow his career, and know his career and know what he can do, the guy was a good fighter, he deserved to have a shot at Tszyu, too bad he had to move up to fight Mosley. At one time Tszyu was going to fight Ward, who just came off a lose to Diaz, now that fight didn't come off but why didn't he ever fight Diaz, he was a good fighter and thats all im saying. Im not trying to build him up anymore then what he was, a good fighter.





                Diaz didn't get blown out, and as i said Tszyu didn't want to fight him so hbo set him up with Mosley. If you think their nobodies then you have to go back to elementary school.

                A few of fighters that Diaz beat, guess what, Judah fought too.






                this sounds like a newbie excuess.


                Nope, it's a fact, spinks got escape of the decision win.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by ferocity
                  You know that when Judah FIRST fought Spinks, Spinks won a descision right?




                  Diaz was a jr. welterweight, the divsion he made a name for himself and the weight he fought at was jr. welterweight. He was a hbo fighter, and basicly a espn fighter. Koysta Tszyu was the champion at the time, guess what, he wasn't even looking to fight Diaz, while many even Hbo thought it'd be a tremendous fight. So what does he and hbo do.....they offer him a shot at Mosley title since they know Tszyu doesn't want to risk his title against. Diaz moved up in weight to fight Mosley, and Diaz had Mosley back pedalling for almost the entire fight. Diaz didn't have a granite chin, he had a good chin but not granite and it showed against Mosley. Nothing to be ashamed of loseing to Mosley especially when Diaz went up in weight to fight him. That nobody would have given mayweather hell, mayweather wouldn't be able to hurt him.
                  So if Diaz's best weight was 140 and he wasn't as good at 147, then why are you trying to make it seem like this was a good win for Margarito? So he beat a guy who was a good light welter, but wasn't **** at welter? That means this victory is meaningless...

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by eazy_mas
                    IMO Tsyzu is one of the few fighters that could beat Mayweather jr.?

                    saying that he didnt want to fight Daiz is wierd because its mre risky to fight Tszyu than to fight Mosely.

                    and eveyone know Tszyu boxing skills, power as well as reflexes
                    I agree. Tsyzu was damn good against slick boxers and guys who tried to move around the ring. It would have been an interesting fight, that's for sure. Too bad Tsyzu was injured so much when Floyd was there and then lost his title in that wrestling match with Ricky Hatton...

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                    • ferocity
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by eazy_mas
                      IMO Tsyzu is one of the few fighters that could beat Mayweather jr.?

                      saying that he didnt want to fight Daiz is wierd because its mre risky to fight Tszyu than to fight Mosely.

                      and eveyone know Tszyu boxing skills, power as well as reflexes

                      So you're saying Mosley, who can box and slugg it out with many, is less dangerous then Tszyu who converted to being a cautious counter puncher boxer, i don't aggree, if so the Diaz wouldn't have to go to welterweight to get his TITLE SHOT.






                      Originally posted by raymon123
                      Nope, it's a fact, spinks got escape of the decision win.
                      Again, i don't score points for a runner.




                      Originally posted by SiN
                      So if Diaz's best weight was 140 and he wasn't as good at 147, then why are you trying to make it seem like this was a good win for Margarito? So he beat a guy who was a good light welter, but wasn't **** at welter? That means this victory is meaningless...
                      So you're saying i souldn't mention fighters or fights that have nothing to do with 147? Then why the hell do people always bring up Mayweathers past? When he now fights at 147 and at 147 he hasn't don't jack **** as of yet. How the hell he even got his title shot.

                      You saying Diaz wasn't **** at jr. welterweight shows how ignorant you really are. He was a top contender, at worst a contender.



                      Originally posted by SiN
                      I agree. Tsyzu was damn good against slick boxers and guys who tried to move around the ring. It would have been an interesting fight, that's for sure. Too bad Tsyzu was injured so much when Floyd was there and then lost his title in that wrestling match with Ricky Hatton...

                      Tszyu could punch, but Mayweather could box and his punch is under rated. I guess some people forget that Mitchell gave Tszyu one hell of a fight the first go around. Who would win, its not difficult to see who would win, of coure you would have to be a boxing fan to see who would win, too bad for you, you didn't follow boxing much if at all back then.

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