Calzaghe Set on Clash with Hopkins

[jangeorg]

Good ****, you made my day.

But if Calzaghe beat Bernard Hopkins, is it safe to say he could compare his competition to the likes of Roy Jones? Or even more so? Legendary.

C'mon, B-hop is more in his prime now than when Jones fought him, he's a young old man.

Here is something from Frank Warren`s web side

http://www.frankwarren.tv/drill/News/Articles/2006/10/16/leonard-joe-can-beat-anyone.html

[jangeorg]

If he doesn't take the fight with Kessler, he's a coward.

Kessler is calling him out, and has the other two major titles.

No way should he be avoiding a legit threat and unification opportunity in his own division by calling out at near 42 year old retired fighter.

Man up and fight Kessler Joe.

Aua aua aua Kessler comes. I'm so scared. See his right against Beyer -- aua aua this will hurt so much. Please Frankie get me out of 168, right now. I don't want to be hurt. I'll fight anyone, grandpa Hopkins, grandpa Glencoffe, stiff Woods, Evan Ashira, Mario Veit again if he steps up to 175. Even Beyer I wouldn't duck this time. Pleaaaase, Frankie, help me, I'm so desperate.

[mr. bojangles]

Aua aua aua Kessler comes. I'm so scared. See his right against Beyer -- aua aua this will hurt so much. Please Frankie get me out of 168, right now. I don't want to be hurt. I'll fight anyone, grandpa Hopkins, grandpa Glencoffe, stiff Woods, Evan Ashira, Mario Veit again if he steps up to 175. Even Beyer I wouldn't duck this time. Pleaaaase, Frankie, help me, I'm so desperate.

lmao ....funny, but so true.



The fight for Calzaghe is NOT the twice-retired oldman Hopkins. It's the fight for the undisputed title against the younger, stronger and skilled Viking Warrior.

[STEELHEAD]

calzaghe picked the wrong style to impress hbo against bika.
i'm guessing that cal is more into his own legacy and will want to keep his belt and fight an old hopkins then retire. kessler wont get a chance.

[SHB]

Is it just me, or is this Jeff Lacy all over again? And we all saw how scared he was of him.

[Cletus Funk]

This post pretty much somes up your level of knowledge of the sport. Do you even know what a good fighter looks like?

Kessler does everything wrong defensively. He has no head or lateral movement, he moves straight back from punches, his jab goes back to his waist, and it only starts from his midrift. Add in the fact that all he throws are jabs that mainly miss and the occasional 1-2 and it all adds up to a pretty average fighter.

A fight with Joe wouldn't even be close. Kessler would be eating counter right hooks and straights all night. After watching the Beyer fight again I don't even think he'd see the final bell. And I don't think we'll see you ever again on here after the fight if it ever comes off. You're no fan of boxing.

Aua aua aua Kessler comes. I'm so scared. See his right against Beyer -- aua aua this will hurt so much. Please Frankie get me out of 168, right now. I don't want to be hurt. I'll fight anyone, grandpa Hopkins, grandpa Glencoffe, stiff Woods, Evan Ashira, Mario Veit again if he steps up to 175. Even Beyer I wouldn't duck this time. Pleaaaase, Frankie, help me, I'm so desperate.

[dumdane]

Kessler does everything wrong defensively. He has no head or lateral movement, he moves straight back from punches, his jab goes back to his waist, and it only starts from his midrift. Add in the fact that all he throws are jabs that mainly miss and the occasional 1-2 and it all adds up to a pretty average fighter.

Concidering he does it all wrong it's worked out very well for him hasn't it?

As for his backwards movement or jumps that are all wrong, i think it works perfectly for Kessler, as his defence is all about controlling distance. He is extremely good at judging distance and will always try to control the fight from the outside - even when his opponent has similar or better reach.
He also very much likes to counter-box. Only he rarely gets the chance to do it much. If you look into it he hardly ever jumps back more than one step - and then if the opponent follows, he counters. If he'd used head movement instead he'd more likely have lost control of the distance and been less likely to succesfully counter.
So far most of his opponents have generally given up on following him pretty soon, as it only gave them grief. And then they've resigned themselves to be picked appart by the jab from the outside.

..Which brings us to the next point. His terrible jab that mainly miss as you say. Well he might miss quite a lot, as again he uses it to control distance and keeping his opponent where he want's 'em rather than always to actually do damage (that might be an added bonus). But he generally throws so many that quite a few will find their target.
If his jab is so bad it surprises me how many "experts" mentions it as one of the best in boxing today. And how many of his former opponents mention it as the hardest and most accurate they've ever encountered.
Particularly Lucas has spoken highly of that jab that kept him completely out of the game for ten rounds and left his face a bloodied mess. (Kessler hardly did anything but jab that night - So if you'r now telling me his jab is really useless, it sure doesn't reflect too kindly on Lucas)

But hey - you might be a better expert than those who admires Kessler's style. Maybe you are right. He's just a very average fighter who got lucky and against all odds ended up with two major belts.
Possibly a guy like Bika will expose him as a fraud.

I just don't think so.

[Cletus Funk]

Pretty much everything you've said has only been effective because of the level of fighter he's been in with and because of his natural strength and power. All of the defensive faults that I've pointed out would be brutally exploited by any world class fighter.

I'm not saying his jab's bad, it just isn't as great as is being made out. It can be nice and stiff but it's also pretty inaccurate and gets blocked alot. I prefer Jermaine Taylor's.

I really can't believe how anyone could think that Kessler's basic offensive arsenal wouldn't be easily negated by someone of Calzaghe's talent and ring generalship. Kessler shows no more offensive variation than Valuev and I think he'd find himself feeling lost pretty early in the fight.

Concidering he does it all wrong it's work out very well for him hasn't it?

As for his backwards movement or jumps that are all wrong, i think it works perfectly for Kessler, as his defence is all about controlling distance. He is extremely good at judging distance and will always try to control the fight from the outside - even when his opponent has similar or better reach.
He also very much likes to counter-box. Only he rarely gets the chance to do it much. If you look into it he hardly ever jumps back more than one step - and then if the opponent follows, he counters. If he'd used head movement instead he'd more likely have lost control of the distance and been less likely to succesfully counter.
So far most of his opponents have generally given up on following him pretty soon, as it only gave them grief. And then they've resigned themselves to be picked appart by the jab from the outside.

..Which brings us to the next point. His terrible jab that mainly miss as you say. Well he might miss quite a lot, as again he uses it to control distance and keeping his opponent where he want's 'em rather than always to actually do damage (that might be an added bonus). But he generally throws so many that quite a few will find their target.
If his jab is so bad it surprises me how many "experts" mentions it as one of the best in boxing today. And how many of his former opponents mention it as the hardest and most accurate they've ever encountered.
Particularly Lucas has spoken highly of that jab that kept him completely out of the game for ten rounds and left his face a bloodied mess. (Kessler hardly did anything but jab that night - So if you'r now telling me his jab is really useless, it sure doesn't reflect too kindly on Lucas)

But hey - you might be a better expert than those who admires Kessler's style. Maybe you are right. He's just a very average fighter who got lucky and against all odds ended up with two major belts.
Possibly a guy like Bika will expose him as a fraud.

I just don't think so.

[El Jesus]

This post pretty much somes up your level of knowledge of the sport. Do you even know what a good fighter looks like?

Kessler does everything wrong defensively. He has no head or lateral movement, he moves straight back from punches, his jab goes back to his waist, and it only starts from his midrift. Add in the fact that all he throws are jabs that mainly miss and the occasional 1-2 and it all adds up to a pretty average fighter.

A fight with Joe wouldn't even be close. Kessler would be eating counter right hooks and straights all night. After watching the Beyer fight again I don't even think he'd see the final bell. And I don't think we'll see you ever again on here after the fight if it ever comes off. You're no fan of boxing.

....Calzhage has a tendency to lunge in with his punches, and after he throws, often times hell finish with his head down which BEGS for an uppercut flush on the chin, , Joe's defense is no less suspect than Kessler, but Kessler is a far bigger puncher. Joe is just faster , but him and kessler matchup fairly even.

The one thing that pains me when i see Joe fight is the way he throws, sometimes..im not joking, it looks like hes swinging like a damn girl. No disrespect to joe and his accomplishments, but IT DOES look like that sometimes.

[Cletus Funk]

....Calzhage has a tendency to lunge in with his punches, and after he throws, often times hell finish with his head down which BEGS for an uppercut flush on the chin, , Joe's defense is no less suspect than Kessler, but Kessler is a far bigger puncher. Joe is just faster , but him and kessler matchup fairly even.

The one thing that pains me when i see Joe fight is the way he throws, sometimes..im not joking, it looks like hes swinging like a damn girl. No disrespect to joe and his accomplishments, but IT DOES look like that sometimes.

When he's in "brawl" mode I'd agree with that. When he's in the mode that he was against Lacy none of that applies. He has terrific lateral movement, timing and control of distance and his punches are compact, fast and varied. Kessler shows none of that.