Miranda vs Abraham - Round 5 Fiasco

[Googler]

I guess you guys had your hopes up that the ref would stop the fight and Miranda would win via stoppage. HAHHAHA mother****ers. If he was a boxer he shouldve KOed Abraham with a broken jaw. You guys are crackups.

[amagnin]

Only boxing offers unique situations like this. I got to give Abraham his credit because he cannot control what the doctor, ref, cornermen do... he can only control his actions. He chose to fight on and risk injury and he won the fight. If people want to claim that the ref helped Abraham with the deductions that is fine, but the non-stoppage shouldn't be an issue. It kind of reminds me of the fiasco at the Judah-Mayweather fight. Sure the ref could have DQ'd Floyd b/c his trainer was in the ring, but they didn't and Mayweather won the fight. Not as much controversy as people are making this out to be.

[raymon123]

Hey raymon123

Let me have a link to the article in which the IBF was quoted as saying Abraham lost the fight. If you can do this then ill give you credit. And please stop talking out of your ass.

Sure goog, no problem.

[raymon123]

Only boxing offers unique situations like this. I got to give Abraham his credit because he cannot control what the doctor, ref, cornermen do... he can only control his actions. He chose to fight on and risk injury and he won the fight. If people want to claim that the ref helped Abraham with the deductions that is fine, but the non-stoppage shouldn't be an issue. It kind of reminds me of the fiasco at the Judah-Mayweather fight. Sure the ref could have DQ'd Floyd b/c his trainer was in the ring, but they didn't and Mayweather won the fight. Not as much controversy as people are making this out to be.

He didn't choose the fight to go on. He clearly shake his head no after the ref told him if he can continue.

[raymon123]

Well the bad news that i can't find the article that state by the ibf saying miranda should have won by a tko of the 5th round. I however did found the article from warriorsboxing.com about miranda as still the number 1 contender to the ibf title. MIRANDA, THE UNCROWNED CHAMP, STILL NUMBER ONE!
IBF DECIDES THAT ‘PANTERA’ WILL KEEP MANDATORY CONTENDER’S SPOT

HOLLYWOOD, FL, October 4 – After a highly controversial 12 round decision defeat that rocked the boxing world and caused the media and fight fans to speak out in droves against the injustices done to ‘Uncrowned Middleweight Champion’ Edison Miranda, the International Boxing Federation (IBF) decided on September 29 that Miranda will retain his number one spot in the sanctioning body’s rankings, thus keeping him as the mandatory challenger to champion Arthur Abraham, who was awarded a controversial decision over ‘Pantera’ on September 23rd in his hometown of Wetzlar, Germany in a bout that should have been ruled a fifth round TKO in the Colombian’s favor.

“I’m pleased that the IBF has decided to keep Edison Miranda as the mandatory contender, and their decision makes it clear that they will not tolerate any injustice when it comes to their championship matches,” said Leon Margules, Executive Director of Seminole Warriors Boxing, Miranda’s promoter. “Edison Miranda won that fight and every objective observer and mainstream boxing journalist who has seen the fight agrees. We believe Miranda is the uncrowned champion and the result of September 23rd’s fight should be changed to a TKO5 for ‘Pantera.’”

“I thank the IBF for keeping me as the number one contender and I plan on rewarding their good faith by becoming their champion the next time I fight Arthur Abraham, if he is able to fight again,” said Miranda. “I have a lot of respect for Abraham as a warrior, but I promise that I will knock him out the next time we fight. I will not let the judges or referee take the fight from me again.”

In the Abraham-Miranda bout, Miranda broke the jaw of the champion in the fourth round and everyone agreed – including Abraham – that the fight should have been stopped in the subsequent round. That is, everyone except members of the champion’s team, who put Abraham’s career in danger with their callous deeds and actions. When asked after the fight why he allowed the fight to continue, Dr. Walter Wagner told German television, “We were in danger to lose the fight, so Arthur had to continue.” This is very strange since Dr. Wagner was clearly seen advising Referee Randy Neumann in the fifth round that Abraham could not continue.

Said Margules, “Arthur Abraham was asked by referee Randy Neumann in the fifth round if he wanted to continue and he said ‘no’, and rightfully so. He had suffered a severe injury and it was better for him to come back for another chance at the title than to risk his life and career. But his team put winning over this young man’s safety, and it disgusts me that professionals in our business behaved in this manner.”

Seminole Warriors Boxing has big plans for their Champion, Edison Miranda and those plans which may or may not include a rematch with Abraham will be announced in the near future.

For more information on Seminole Warriors Boxing, please visit our website at www.warriorsboxing.com.

[amagnin]

Yes initially he did, but I am not aware of any rule in boxing that says a guy can't change his mind (as long as the fight still hasn't been officially ended). Even discounting this... the fact is that the fight DID go on... and Abraham won on the scorecards. If you want to disagree with the scoring I understand but don't get caught up in a stoppage that didn't happen. We could talk about countless fights with long counts, bad stoppages etc.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Keeping him the #1 challenger counts as a win? Well **** me running... we don't need title fights anymore folks since the #1 conteder can automatically claim the W.

[Googler]

Well the bad news that i can't find the article that state by the ibf saying miranda should have won by a tko of the 5th round. I however did found the article from warriorsboxing.com about miranda as still the number 1 contender to the ibf title.

Next time you say wacky **** like that try to back it up with solid proof. If you can't then dont throw BS out there.

[raymon123]

Next time you say wacky **** like that try to back it up with solid proof. If you can't then dont throw BS out there.

The ibf did put miranda back as the mandatory challenger. Why did they do that? hmmmmmmm.

[Dirt E Gomez]

The ibf did put miranda back as the mandatory challenger. Why did they do that? hmmmmmmm.

Because their was controversy... it's the same as a sanctioning body demanding an immediate rematch after a fight... it happens. This is hardly a first or a milestone.