Did Pacquiao make Juan Manuel Marquez Famous?

[ferocity]

and that's all there is to it! You become famous by beating someone famous, NOT BY DRAWING with them and in the eyes of some/many LOSING to that fighter.

Tarver became famous for KOing Roy Jones Jr.

Pacquiao became famous for KOing Barrera.


that's why this thread is neccessary. I made it so everyone knows that the only reason Marquez is famous is because he drew with Pacquiao, who many believe DOES NOT LET his opponents reach the final round. This is NOT THE RIGHT WAY to become famous.



and Marquez never should've belonged in P4P list for drawing with Manny. He has beaten no one significant.

Wow!

You really are delusional.

You and bogler are showing that some Pacquiao fans are very delusional.

[thewall]

I guess your term of road warrior is only used to certain fighters.

Winky fought over seas cause nobody gave a **** about him, and thats where the money was at. Lets see him fight over sees now, yeah sure.

Funny you want to give credit to those guys but not Marquez, ****en hater.

isnt the reason marquez fought in indonesia cuz nobody cared about him here in the US?

[Bogler]

Wow!

You really are delusional.

You and bogler are showing that some Pacquiao fans are very delusional.

wtf did my reply has to do w/ being delusional? can you read? if pac lost against mab, would he be as famous? no, he would just be another win on barrera's card. if pac won by SD, would that win help him reach some of the top p4p rankings? probably not, it wouldn't be convincing.

but he beat mab so bad that it almost took 3yrs before a rematch could be possible. the barrera name helped, but the way pac annihilated him made him famous. that's pac's own doing.

[ferocity]

wtf did my reply has to do w/ being delusional? can you read? if pac lost against mab, would he be as famous? no, he would just be another win on barrera's card. if pac won by SD, would that win help him reach some of the top p4p rankings? probably not, it wouldn't be convincing.

but he beat mab so bad that it almost took 3yrs before a rematch could be possible. the barrera name helped, but the way pac annihilated him made him famous. that's his own doing.

So how long has it been since Marquez has gotten his rematch?

Pacquiao beat Barrera but the way Pacqioa goes after Barrera you would think he lost. Mention Marquez to Pacqioa and Pacquiao starts to stutter badlly.

Pacqiao wants nothing to do with Marquez and nither does his fans. Marquez owns Pacquaio.

Barrera was just doing his thing, its pacquiao who's been going after pacqiao, pacqiao must think he lost the fight or somthing, but he wants nothing to do with Marquez, talk about dodging.


And before you start to say how Marquez out priced himself, thats the past, the present is the Pacqiao starts to mumble, pause and freak out when ever a question is asked about Marquez.

[Katz]

wtf did my reply has to do w/ being delusional? can you read? if pac lost against mab, would he be as famous? no, he would just be another win on barrera's card. if pac won by SD, would that win help him reach some of the top p4p rankings? probably not, it wouldn't be convincing.

but he beat mab so bad that it almost took 3yrs before a rematch could be possible. the barrera name helped, but the way pac annihilated him made him famous. that's pac's own doing.

yup yup.. the gift draw doesnt make you land in top p4p.

[ferocity]

yup yup.. the gift draw doesnt make you land in top p4p.

Whos talking about a draw?

You guys must worship Pacquiao, you guys act as if Marquez wasn't around before Pacqiao.

[Katz]

Whos talking about a draw?

You guys must worship Pacquiao, you guys act as if Marquez wasn't around before Pacqiao.

where is JMM in P4P ranking before the fight?

[Bogler]

So how long has it been since Marquez has gotten his rematch?

Pacquiao beat Barrera but the way Pacqioa goes after Barrera you would think he lost. Mention Marquez to Pacqioa and Pacquiao starts to stutter badlly.

Pacqiao wants nothing to do with Marquez and nither does his fans. Marquez owns Pacquaio.

Barrera was just doing his thing, its pacquiao who's been going after pacqiao, pacqiao must think he lost the fight or somthing, but he wants nothing to do with Marquez, talk about dodging.


And before you start to say how Marquez out priced himself, thats the past, the present is the Pacqiao starts to mumble, pause and freak out when ever a question is asked about Marquez.

haha why did you just segue into JMM? i was talkin about mab-pac eh? you got nothin.

and btw, yeah it needs to be mentioned again that it was jmm who chickened out of a rematch so pac ownz jmm. dont talk about ****in interviews, it could be interpreted in a hundred of ways, but a rematch offer in ink that got turned down gives only a few interpretations, and most of them point to chickening out.

[loui_ludwig]

So how long has it been since Marquez has gotten his rematch?

Pacquiao beat Barrera but the way Pacqioa goes after Barrera you would think he lost. Mention Marquez to Pacqioa and Pacquiao starts to stutter badlly.

Pacqiao wants nothing to do with Marquez and nither does his fans. Marquez owns Pacquaio.

Barrera was just doing his thing, its pacquiao who's been going after pacqiao, pacqiao must think he lost the fight or somthing, but he wants nothing to do with Marquez, talk about dodging.


And before you start to say how Marquez out priced himself, thats the past, the present is the Pacqiao starts to mumble, pause and freak out when ever a question is asked about Marquez.

Ur basing it on an interview of Pac. Who is da one who back out of the rematch? Not Pac.

Marquez owns Pac, LOL, the fight ended in a draw, so nobody owns nobody.

Now that Marquez is out of the P4P rankings, earned less after his fight with Pac, and lost to Chris John, JMM wants to fight Pac now. JMM was given the chance for a rematch but he said no.

[Manny_P]

JMM is nothing, but a coward. After the fight, Merchant asked JMM "Do you Want a Rematch with Pacquiao?" JMM with his bleeding nose and bruises on foreheads says "No I don't feel I need to rematch him". LMAO! Then the 2nd fight was getting negotiated. HBO already hd the date for Feb of 2005, then Marquez chickens out from Pacquiao and asks ALOT OF MONEY so he won't fight Manny.

Who's the ****in *****?! Juan Manuel Marquez is.