Did Tito Really Think He Beat Oscar?

[pelonxsoldier28]

first off tito has never called out oscar for a re-match .....any talks of a re-match have always been started by oscar ...also despite if you think oscar won the first fight tito has the w and he is also an established fighter with a huge following so no he is not taking a 70/30 split ...a 70/30 split was the offer oscar made because he did not really want a re-match and he knew tito would turn it down..

you all give too much credit to a bum, and there's a lot of wishfull thinking on this forum

[blockhead]

he knew he got a gift, but thats the way the ball bounces sometimes its in your favor sometimes it isnt.

[Left2body]

you all give too much credit to a bum, and there's a lot of wishfull thinking on this forum

ROFL, so Tito is a bum Tito fought everyone at 147lbs that was a contender except for Ike who went MIA after his controversial loss to Oscar.

Tito then and now is a huge draw and he definitely deserved better than a 30/70 cut. Tito then went on to win titles at 154lbs and a version of the 160lbs title in a tournament. Thats a guy who is scared to fight and is a bum?

I can respect peoples oppionon on why Oscar won the fight but to say Tito is a bum is ******ed and shows you know nothing about boxing.

[PRboxingfan]

Some people who post here are really ignorant. Quit posting if you do not know what happened.

Trinidad IS retired. He doesn't need the fight, Oscar does (if he wants to avenge his loss).

In all the press conferences before the fight, Tito kept telling Oscar he was going to beat him and, if he wanted a rematch, he'd have to switch the names on the contract. They would put Tito where it said DLH, Don King where it said Bob Arum, and vice versa.

In the last press conference, De La Hoya told Tito he was dreaming if he thought he would win the fight and to prove it he accepted the terms of switching the names. Oscar made 60% and Tito made 40% of the purse and they split the upside of the PPVs over 500K buys (they made 1.4 Million buys so they both made maaaad money on the upside alone).

Since then, any time DLH mentions a rematch, Tito brings up the agreement to switch the names and Tito get 60% and Oscar get 40% of the purse. Oscar's ego has never allowed him to take those terms because he is the bigger draw and is used to getting the lions share of the purse in all his fights.

It was Oscar who offered 70-30 to Tito. Tito never offered less than 60-40 and has never wanted anything else than to switch the names on the original contract. Those of us who've been boxing fans long enough remember all of this. It is only now that Papa Trinidad said that he'd even accept 50-50 to prove that Oscar is full of **** and that he did not really want the rematch but only wanted to use Tito's name to highlight his own and give him more leverage when negotiating his next fight (probably his last).

BTW, I had the fight a draw at 114-114. I had Oscar up 6 rounds to 2 when round 9 started but Oscar just got on his bicycle and, in my eyes, lost the last four rounds clearly.

[boxingjunkie31]

ROFL, so Tito is a bum Tito fought everyone at 147lbs that was a contender except for Ike who went MIA after his controversial loss to Oscar.

Tito then and now is a huge draw and he definitely deserved better than a 30/70 cut. Tito then went on to win titles at 154lbs and a version of the 160lbs title in a tournament. Thats a guy who is scared to fight and is a bum?

I can respect peoples oppionon on why Oscar won the fight but to say Tito is a bum is ******ed and shows you know nothing about boxing.

can't stand Tito for retireing everytime he loses and low blowing Vargas..but he AINT no bum...I agree with you dawg.far far from it..he is def an elite boxer

[boxingjunkie31]

Some people who post here are really ignorant. Quit posting if you do not know what happened.

Trinidad IS retired. He doesn't need the fight, Oscar does (if he wants to avenge his loss).

In all the press conferences before the fight, Tito kept telling Oscar he was going to beat him and, if he wanted a rematch, he'd have to switch the names on the contract. They would put Tito where it said DLH, Don King where it said Bob Arum, and vice versa.

In the last press conference, De La Hoya told Tito he was dreaming if he thought he would win the fight and to prove it he accepted the terms of switching the names. Oscar made 60% and Tito made 40% of the purse and they split the upside of the PPVs over 500K buys (they made 1.4 Million buys so they both made maaaad money on the upside alone).

Since then, any time DLH mentions a rematch, Tito brings up the agreement to switch the names and Tito get 60% and Oscar get 40% of the purse. Oscar's ego has never allowed him to take those terms because he is the bigger draw and is used to getting the lions share of the purse in all his fights.

It was Oscar who offered 70-30 to Tito. Tito never offered less than 60-40 and has never wanted anything else than to switch the names on the original contract. Those of us who've been boxing fans long enough remember all of this. It is only now that Papa Trinidad said that he'd even accept 50-50 to prove that Oscar is full of **** and that he did not really want the rematch but only wanted to use Tito's name to highlight his own and give him more leverage when negotiating his next fight (probably his last).

BTW, I had the fight a draw at 114-114. I had Oscar up 6 rounds to 2 when round 9 started but Oscar just got on his bicycle and, in my eyes, lost the last four rounds clearly.

course u had it a draw PRboxing fan, duh

[Left2body]

can't stand Tito for retireing everytime he loses and low blowing Vargas..but he AINT no bum...I agree with you dawg.far far from it..he is def an elite boxer

Do I like his retiring nope.....but is it really that different than ODLH who has been in defacto retirment twice?

I also understand if you dont like tito because of the low blow which I also think was intentional but Tito but can you point out another instance in where Tito has been blatantly dirty?

Also I'm curious what are your thoughts on DLH's "cup guard" for the Vargas fight?

[PRboxingfan]

course u had it a draw PRboxing fan, duh

I didn't have it a draw because I'm Puerto Rican. I had it a draw because that's how I saw it. Many people had it a draw. Lederman had it a draw, but I remember Merchant and Forman having it for Tito. I remember Dan Raphael from USA Today at the time also having scored it a draw. It wasn't an unheard of score.

[Del Coqui]

I didn't have it a draw because I'm Puerto Rican. I had it a draw because that's how I saw it. Many people had it a draw. Lederman had it a draw, but I remember Merchant and Forman having it for Tito. I remember Dan Raphael from USA Today at the time also having scored it a draw. It wasn't an unheard of score.

I thought Tito loss for sure that night. Next day, watched the fight with the volume down and also scored it a draw.

[borikua]

you all give too much credit to a bum, and there's a lot of wishfull thinking on this forum

This right here shows how dumb you are...