Why are peope having so much trouble beating Valuev?

[micky_knox]

Audley could beat valuev easy

lol.................

[Toddy]

valuez hasnt really had anybody thats focused on the body or had the power to knock the man out (or at least use it) i think if they put in someone that has great power and a tendency to go for the gut then i reckon hes beat from the start

[Welter_Skelter]

I watched the Valuev-Barrett fight 3 times, and yeah, it was painful to do, but I had to see something and be sure of what I saw.

I gave gave Barrett 2-6 and Valuev the rest. I thought that in 2-6, as few as they were, Barrett's punches were cleaner and he was making Valuev miss. I won'targue if you saw it differently.

That said, I still don't understand why no one sees what I see. If you want to beat Valuev, the body is the key. He's huge, but he has a VERY soft midsection. Everyone tries to take him out to the head, even though it's plain to anyone with eyes that his skull is armor plated, not t mention the fact that trying to punch a foot and a half upwards is going to drain you very fast.
Valuev's punches are slow and too infrequent. Step to the left or right of his jab, one-two hard to the body, step inside the slow right that's coming, short double left to the body, step around and keep him turning.

Very simple andwers to this my friend.. 1st reason being Donk King.. Donald and Ruiz were robbed.. and I am sure DK's millions had something to do with that.. 2nd reason ,Who the hell are Beck and barrett.??? already washed up never has beens.. Valuev will fall the 1st real contender he meets.. i.e.. Wlad , Brewster, Liakhovich even Briggs

[Kid Achilles]

I'm not so sure he has a soft body. Any guy that size with a head that big is going to have an immensely strong bone structure to match. He probably has ribs the size of a cow's. He may look soft in the gut but I have a feeling he won't be so easy to hurt there.

The guys with the best chances to beat him in this division are Wlad and Peter. Perhaps Sergei has the durability, power, and quick handedness to take him out in the mid rounds.

One thing is for sure, he is an exhausting guy to fight with all that weight and strength on his size. Smaller guys with better stamina are going to tire before he does. You know, Jess Willard held the same advantage many years ago. It's tiring just to clinch with these giants.

I think higher of Valuev than many people here, which is strange because I'm usually the last guy to admit that size can win a fight. I think he will win his next three or four fights, beat guys of Briggs's and Maskaev's caliber, but then get stopped by a Wlad, Brewster, or Peter.

[dave777]

Audley could beat valuev easy

Are you having a laugh

Nikolai Valuev has never been beaten!

[TyrantT316]

like any other fan with any other boxer, you can always "see" SOMETHING....every fighter sees something until they get into that ring...

Barrett's plan was the body, and he tried, but he had a hard time getting to Valuev's body...it all changes when you actually get in there...

What "I See" is that a boxer who moves left and right all night/jump in and out (similar to Casamayor when he is on his rhythm) would avoid a lot from Valuev and beat him...

we can all "see" something and think that it would work 100% of the time, however when the fighters get in that ring, it changes when you get hit or depending on what your opponent does differently

[Southpaw Stinger]

Originally Posted by !! A - FORCE !!
Audley could beat valuev easy

Don't be foolish.

[potatoes]

I'm not so sure he has a soft body. Any guy that size with a head that big is going to have an immensely strong bone structure to match. He probably has ribs the size of a cow's. He may look soft in the gut but I have a feeling he won't be so easy to hurt there.

The guys with the best chances to beat him in this division are Wlad and Peter. Perhaps Sergei has the durability, power, and quick handedness to take him out in the mid rounds.

One thing is for sure, he is an exhausting guy to fight with all that weight and strength on his size. Smaller guys with better stamina are going to tire before he does. You know, Jess Willard held the same advantage many years ago. It's tiring just to clinch with these giants.

I think higher of Valuev than many people here, which is strange because I'm usually the last guy to admit that size can win a fight. I think he will win his next three or four fights, beat guys of Briggs's and Maskaev's caliber, but then get stopped by a Wlad, Brewster, or Peter.

Valuev is a big strong man who has no talent for boxing. However, he trains hard and gives every fight is best effort, like a professional should. The reason he wins is because he is facing bums like Barrett who do not have his level of professionalism. There are any number of ways to beat Valuev, once Valuev is forced to defend his title against a true professional it will soon become apparent to everybody how easily he can be beaten.

[SquareCircle]

His immense size and ability to take a hard blow, coupled with his excellent clinching equal a superhuman ability to recover from a hard shot, or even a hard combination, those are excellent physical attributes for the heavyweight division...If you want to talk about talent then explain to me, if he doesn't have talent then why does he never, ever **** his right hand before he throws a cross? He has a pretty good boxing brain and picks his shots very well...Remember, speed may beat power, but timing can beat speed, and Valuev has excellent timing my friend. His technique is on point and he has plenty of power...Don't get me wrong, I think Wlad would hammer that ass if he went in with a game plan..

[Derranged]

If by "people' you mean Owen Beck and Monte Barrett, I think you've answered your own question.

I thought Ruiz beat him in a close fight, and Larry Donald Schooled him in a one sided win.

This is what I was gonna say. In my book, Valuev ALREADY lost twice to relatively unremarkable opponents.

My prediction was somewhat correct, Barret would simply wear out in the late rounds. However, I thought Barret was gonna win most of the rounds which he did not. Im not so sure Barret had much of a strategy.