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  • Truth
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    #31
    Goossen responds to Duva!
    September 21, 2006


    James Toney's promoter Dan Goossen has responded to a statement released by promoter Samuel Peter Dino Duva in which Duva says he's enraged about speculation that the WBC will order a Peter-Toney rematch. "He couldn't possibly be as enraged as almost all of the media and fans, as well as James and I, were the night of the event," wrote Goossen in an email. "Out of 27 ringside media polled immediately after the bout, 25 scored it for Toney.

    "The WBC, like many organizations throughout the years, have ordered immediate rematches based on controversial decisions. They are not changing a decision, only voting whether or not there is cause to order an immediate rematch. With the tremendous amount of outcry from the media and the fans its obvious the only fair decision is an immediate rematch."

    Regarding Duva's comments on James Toney’s character, or lack of, Goossen wrote, "Character? It was Duva who first angered Toney and his wife and kids, when he said 'Toney was dumb' at the opening press conference. Character? Who was lacking character insulting James in front of his family?"

    Finally, in regard to Duva's comments on Toney's antics being detrimental to boxing, Goossen wrote, "Disgrace to the boxing business is a controversial decision and not what is said by fighters (and promoters) during the heat of battle (preparing and fighting). The WBC should be applauded if they find it worthy to order an immediate rematch based on the uproar of an overwhelming majority of media, fans and the television on-air talent, who all had James Toney winning the bout."


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    • -EX-
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      #32
      I thought Peter was moving on to fight I think it was Maskaev?

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      • boxingfan420
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        #33
        Douche Bag

        Originally posted by vB Martin
        How can you call Toney's punches effective when they had abosultely no effect on his opponent?
        Sorry, but you're no boxing expert.

        How the HELL do you know the effects of Toney's punches. Has James ever punched you in the face. Stop acting like your name is Samuel Peter.


        Obviously you know nothing of how the sport works.

        Writers, and boxing commissions don't want or feel the need james anymore. This is how you get a guy to go away, you give the victory to the young prospect and not the aging veteran that every sports writer hates.

        I know James personally, yeah he is brash, but he deserves more respect.

        Maybe boxers should judge other boxers instead of blind old men who are looking for hand outs.

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        • psychopath
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          #34
          "Big mouth" Toney is crying like a *****.

          By all means let them fight again, before Toney commits suicide.

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          • GunStar
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            #35
            Originally posted by psychopath
            "Big mouth" Toney is crying like a *****.

            By all means let them fight again, before Toney commits suicide.
            No one cries like Bitchnard!

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            • psychopath
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              #36
              Originally posted by Gunstar1
              No one cries like Bitchnard!
              Oh yeah? Then just tell Toney to shut his big mouth and take his loss like a man.

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              • GooGoo
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                #37
                Originally posted by psychopath
                Oh yeah? Then just tell Toney to shut his big mouth and take his loss like a man.
                the only difference is toney won the polls, unlike hopkins. it was funny when they showed hopkins the polls at friday night boxing, hopkins reaction was priceless.

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                • josenoway
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                  #38
                  Heh, why have a rematch?

                  The first fight was so lopsided, just like all those people said, Sam Peter knocked James Toney the **** out in the early rounds.

                  Oh wait, no he didn't =P.

                  /end sarcasm.

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                  • vB Martin
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boxingfan420
                    Sorry, but you're no boxing expert.

                    How the HELL do you know the effects of Toney's punches. Has James ever punched you in the face. Stop acting like your name is Samuel Peter.


                    Obviously you know nothing of how the sport works.

                    blah blah blah

                    Maybe boxers should judge other boxers instead of blind old men who are looking for hand outs.
                    I've been in and around boxing since you were still swimming around in the
                    mail man's nutsack, so please don't presume to judge what I might and might not know about the sport.

                    You, on the other hand, show your complete ignorance in your implication that because a punch might sting it is effective.
                    No, I haven't been punched in the face by Toney, and I hope I never do, but the fact that his punches may have hurt a little on Peter has no bearing on whether or not they were effective.
                    Effectiveness is determined by how your punches, well, AFFECT your opponent. Not a single punch landed by Toney had any visible effect on Peter. Not once did Toney stop Peter from coming forward and swinging. The one time it looked like he stunned Peter, Peter was off balance and tired. Peter visibly shook Toney on several occasions throughout the fight and had Toney moving backwards. Toney can't punch moving backwards.

                    If fights were judges solely on defense and the ability to make the other figher miss, Toney would have won easily. In fact, it was his slickness that gave him several rounds from me, but still not enough to win.

                    I think Toney is a shoe-in for first ballot HOF, and I love to watch him fight, but he still didn't do enough to win this one.

                    Originally posted by boxingfan420
                    Maybe boxers should judge other boxers instead of blind old men who are looking for hand outs.
                    I agree on this point.

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                    • fluent2332
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                      #40
                      Effectiveness is determined by how your punches, well, AFFECT your opponent. Not a single punch landed by Toney had any visible effect on Peter. Not once did Toney stop Peter from coming forward and swinging. The one time it looked like he stunned Peter, Peter was off balance and tired. Peter visibly shook Toney on several occasions throughout the fight and had Toney moving backwards. Toney can't punch moving backwards.
                      how about how sam peters face was bloodied up after the fight, i'd call that a 'visible effect' . and peter didnt have him SHOOK during the fight, once or twice he was stunned but please, thats 2 rounds out of a 12 round fight. getting stunned in one round doesnt win you the next 3 rounds. neither does just coming and NOT LANDING PUNCHES. even if toneys punches werent haymakers which is obviously what judges like you look for, he tagged peters face with the jab all night and landed the cleaner punches. jabs and clean flush punches are worth something to especially when the other guy barely lands any.

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