Oscar is pissing me off

[DiegoFuego]

I disagree with Oscar's place in history

From what he has said after the Mayorga fight, if he wimps out of PBF and chooses Tito, he will be remembered for ending his career not willing to take on the best.

which would be contrary to the rest of his career. I hope you guys are right (the last 3 who posted)

[Obdeboondocks]

I can bet 5 bil points that Trinidad/DLH fight will gather more publicity and money then DLH/PBF.
For casual fan Tito is still magic man, and no pretty shoulder roll, no matter how beautiful for estets, will be as meaningful as Tito's offense to a casual fans. Casual fans dont watch boxing, they watch knock outs. And when guys like Tito(and DLH for that matter) are fighting, they appeal to your casual fans much more then PBF and his antics.
But right now, I dont think DLH/trinidad will happen.

true but im sure that even casual fans know that pbf is the best around. a fight of our generation's favorite against the best around (in which anything can happen) is more attractive than a fight thats already been done (in which we know what would happen if dlh didnt box around). we know dlh will knock tito down again, and if he maintains pressure will win. we however don't know (we think we know pbf will win marginally but we have to see it) what will happen in the super duper hyphy dlh pbf fight.

[RAESAAD]

He's avoiding Mayweather with all this Trinidad discussion. De La Hoya-Trinidad II is garbage. I seriously doubt people that aren't Mexican or Puerto Rican want to see this. De La Hoya easily controlled the first fight and deserved a victory. The rematch will be a blowout. I'd pick Oscar to knock him out in all honesty. Trinidad has been completely outclassed by the three best boxers he fought, stopped by one, dropped a decision to one, and got a bull**** decision against this one, which is the only reason a rematch is even being discussed. This fight won't do anything for DLH's legacy because Trinidad was already embarrassed twice since his embarrassing should-have-been defeat against Oscar. Mayweather is undefeated and the pound for pound king. Mayweather-DLH is the fight to make. If Oscar fights Trinidad, I'll never be able to find it in my heart to forgive him. Not after talking about fighting Mayweather for so long and bailing out. I know Oscar doesn't want to retire with a loss to Mayweather, but going out with an easy win over Trinidad means less to me than a close loss to Mayweather, who could be one of the top 3 greatest fighters of all time by the time he retires. I'll lose a lot of respect for Oscar if this Trinidad fight happens, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in that.

I stopped reading after this........I am sure you raise some good points somewhere in here but he is not avoiding Mayweather.

[jai mari078]

He's avoiding Mayweather with all this Trinidad discussion. De La Hoya-Trinidad II is garbage. I seriously doubt people that aren't Mexican or Puerto Rican want to see this. De La Hoya easily controlled the first fight and deserved a victory. The rematch will be a blowout. I'd pick Oscar to knock him out in all honesty. Trinidad has been completely outclassed by the three best boxers he fought, stopped by one, dropped a decision to one, and got a bull**** decision against this one, which is the only reason a rematch is even being discussed. This fight won't do anything for DLH's legacy because Trinidad was already embarrassed twice since his embarrassing should-have-been defeat against Oscar. Mayweather is undefeated and the pound for pound king. Mayweather-DLH is the fight to make. If Oscar fights Trinidad, I'll never be able to find it in my heart to forgive him. Not after talking about fighting Mayweather for so long and bailing out. I know Oscar doesn't want to retire with a loss to Mayweather, but going out with an easy win over Trinidad means less to me than a close loss to Mayweather, who could be one of the top 3 greatest fighters of all time by the time he retires. I'll lose a lot of respect for Oscar if this Trinidad fight happens, and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in that.

Oscar is not avoiding Mayweather, he is just using Trinidad as a negotiating tool, and making Mayweather sweat a little bit. Mayweather is trying to play this all cool like it doesn't bother him, but he is really *****ing in his pants afraid his payday is gonna go away. It's just a game to let Mayweather know that Oscar doesn't need him to make a huge PPV and lots of money, something Floyd can't do without Oscar. Oscar is just flexing on Floyd a little bit. He is gonna end up fighting Floyd. This is just gonna be a negotiating ploy.

[jai mari078]

Coming from a "casual" fan such as yourself this means nothing. Your hero Tito is a bum.

I hope everybody gives DLH **** for this like they have been giving Mayweather for not fighting an [unproven, not a star] Margarito. This is a way bigger duck than that. WAY BIGGER.

How is this a BIGGER duck? Oscar is nor ducking Floyd. It hasn't even happened and your already saying he is ducking him. The difference is Floyd has been doing this for a long time. Oscar has never ducked anyone and you think he is afraid of Floyd. Yea he'll move up in weight to fight Hopkins, but he's afraid of Floyd.PLEASE!!!! I can't beleive peopple are getting all worked up into beleiving this. Oscar is gonna fight Floyd. This is a negotiating ploy. Like I said Oscar is just trying to show Floyd that he doesn't need him, and can go on and make big money elsewhere unlike Floyd. This is just to eventually hype the fight more and Oscar is just flexing on Floyd a little. Floyd always tries to call all thee shots in negotiations and call the shots and Oscar that is not gonna happen with Oscar. When it comes to negotiations Oscar will call all the shots. Relax Tampax!!!!

[jai mari078]

A guy that beat 13 world champions, has the record of welterweight title defenses and only lost two fight...Is a bum?

Shut the **** up before I slap you with my ****...

I am not a Trinidad fan and never will be, but I respect the guy and would never call him a bum.

[jai mari078]

Back to business.
Do any of you take college level marketing? Or maybe business?
Anyway, I was talking purely from a business standpoint, why DLH/Tito will make more money and gather more publicity. PBF is not long enough in a spot light to be as distinguished as Tito nor does PBF's style(not that I somehow downgrade his skills) is exciting enough for average people.
LEt me ask you something, do you think an average Joe will be able to distinguish the beauty of pcket defense and countering?
I highly doubt, but what I am sure about is that average fan will be able to say "holy ****!" when he sees a huge punch landed. From that point Tito wins .

I agree with the fact that Tito is a bigger draw than Floyd is and Floyd will never come close to Oscar when it comes to drawing power. I can understan your point from that standpoint.

[IwatchBoxing]

Boxing needs Mayweather-Hatton, DLH is a lost cause, his whole career is built on Trinidad which is why he echos his name 24/7. Boxing needs a clean start, and comeback after blowing the 90s and early 2000s

Mayweather-Hatton is a new fight, DLH-Mayweather is meaningless

[jai mari078]

Roger that, Tito was never a bum.

The majority of the people that are gonna say Tito is a bum are the Floy nuthuggers. I am not even a Tito fan. I have never liked the guy, but as a fighter I respect him and would never consider him a bum.

[jai mari078]

Boxing needs Mayweather-Hatton, DLH is a lost cause, his whole career is built on Trinidad which is why he echos his name 24/7. Boxing needs a clean start, and comeback after blowing the 90s and early 2000s

Mayweather-Hatton is a new fight, DLH-Mayweather is meaningless

Saying that Oscars career was built around Tito is an ignorant statement.