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  • kadyo's
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    Experts: Who won Toney vs Peter?

    Hear the thoughts of some of boxing’s top personalities and fighters as they share their take with FightFan.com on last Saturday’s James Toney vs. Samuel Peter decision in Los Angeles CA.


    September 7, 2006

    “Toney won the fight. Peter got away with a lot of illegal shots with very little warning. I thought that point the ref did take away for the double punch to the ears was the least flagrant of all the fouls. Peter was hitting him in the back of the head, and right on the back. I thought Toney boxed the **** out of him!”

    - TSN’s Russ Anber

    “I didn't score it round by round but I had James winning the fight from what I saw. Win, lose or draw it was clear to me that he was the better fighter overall. I get kind of turned off by boxing after fights like these. It seems that many times the announcers at ringside and the reporters in press row consistently put in more accurate scores than the guy that are actually paid to do so.”

    - “Iceman” John Scully

    “I THOUGHT TONEY WON BY TWO ROUNDS. PLUS A POINT WAS TAKEN AWAY. PETER SUCKS. HE KEPT THROWING PUNCHES TO THE BACK OF THE GUYS HEAD. THAT LOOKED SCARY.”

    - Shannon Briggs

    “I thought Toney won by at least two rounds and with the point deduction he should have won the fight fairly easy.”

    - Jeff Mayweather

    “I thought it was a great fight and good for the unpredictable heavyweight division. I’m sitting there thinking about when Toney and I fought at 160lbs and I have to give it up to him, its really amazing what he has done. I had the fight scored 115-112 Toney. “

    - Reggie “Sweet” Johnson

    “It was a bad decision. James Toney won that fight.”

    - Diego “Chico” Corrales

    “I thought Toney won... clearly. When they announced those lopsided scores, I was certain (especially with Peter's point deduction) they were for JT. He stung Peter repeatedly with picture-book jabs -- kept beating him to the punch. Defensively, with some of those moves with his back to the ropes, I wanted to shout Ole!

    James got hit with blockbusters that would've felled any heavyweight (and they shook him) but he re-grouped very quickly, and was never out of his game.

    The fact that Peter took Toney's shots and kept coming doesn't negate how flush they were. They weren't shoe-shines, and any qualified judge should have scored them solid hits -- plus, he landed far more than Peter.

    There've been worse decisions, but those dissenting scores are impossible. Even if Toney finished strong and scored two knockdowns during the fight, he'd still have lost.”

    - Joe Rein (Boxing Writers Association of America)

    “I thought the kid won the fight (Peter). James didn’t do enough to win the fight. He didn’t finish strong like he normally does , didn’t go to the body enough, and didn’t dictate. The kid landed the harder shots and I thought that while it was close he did enough.”

    - Mike “The Bodysnatcher“ McCallum

    “I was at Staples for the fight. I thought split decision Toney, or maybe a draw, didn't think Peter won it though.”

    - Vanes "the Nightmare" Martirosyan

    “I thought James Toney had the edge. He was busier, sharper and showed better all around skills. Freddie had him ready. Peter did the best he could do and I thought had he snapped his jab more and came back with the hook behind the rights he was landing he would have looked better in the eyes of the fans. But he lacks movement, balance and getting position and I believe his size and strength kept him in the fight with James. An immediate rematch should be ordered, but probably won't be.”

    - Dan Birmingham

    “I thought that fight was disgusting. Toney won the fight hands down without a doubt. Since when does someone lose credit for boxing and knowing how to fight? Peter got credit for missing and throwing wild punches. James Toney brings it back to the old school with his ability. I thought he was amazing to watch. The man was robbed. This is really killing the sport and making boxing lose credibility. Anyone who scored that fight for Sam Peter doesn’t know boxing and shouldn’t watch it anymore.”

    - Paulie “The Magic Man” Malignaggi

  • Verstyle
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    #2
    i also thought toney won.although i bet against him

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    • CaLLaHaN
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      #3
      i cant belive how ****ed up boxing has become...... how heartbreaking is it to lose a fight like that......

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      • eazy_mas
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        #4
        Originally posted by versatile2k6
        i also thought toney won.although i bet against him
        At least you made some extra money robbed or not

        As for me I think Toney won but because in the fight he usually gave the last 30 sec of the round to Peter the judges would remeber the last thing.

        but its not like he dominated 100% of the fight like many of the guys in thwe forum said.

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        • Atnan
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          #5
          i think toney has a good chance at taking this fight to the commission and changing the ruling of this fight

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          • Bozo_no no
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            #6
            Funny how McCallum is the only one picking Peter. Wonder if he had some sour g****s from the fights with Toney.

            Briggs is hilarious. For some reason it doesn't suprise me he's always got the CAPS LOCK on.

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            • AllEyesOpen
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              "There've been worse decisions, but those dissenting scores are impossible. Even if Toney finished strong and scored two knockdowns during the fight, he'd still have lost."

              - Joe Rein (Boxing Writers Association of America)

              That statement shows you just how ****ed up that decision was.

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              • Hitman932
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                #8
                Originally posted by AllEyesOpen
                "There've been worse decisions, but those dissenting scores are impossible. Even if Toney finished strong and scored two knockdowns during the fight, he'd still have lost."

                - Joe Rein (Boxing Writers Association of America)

                That statement shows you just how ****ed up that decision was.
                yeah, just like rabah/urango the extremity of the scores were just unexplainable.

                whats weird is that if the judges were paid and they knew they were going to give the fight to peter why the hell didnt they at last make it close??? to have such an outrageous score just raises more concern.

                you almost have to believe the judges really do suck that bad.

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                • BodyHead Banger
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                  #9
                  First that bogus Rahman draw, and now this.

                  Toney so won this fight, and I'm not being biased, but I will admit that it hurt even more being such a big Lights Out fan.

                  Overall though, I think it was safe to say that this decision was a travesty amongst the ranks of the three official judges scoring the fight, (more specifically, the two who basically ****ed up). Those two that favored it so heavily for Peter should have their licenses, as well as their eyesight, looked over.

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                  • Bozo_no no
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BodyHead Banger
                    Overall though, I think it was safe to say that this decision was a travesty amongst the ranks of the three official judges scoring the fight, (more specifically, the two who basically ****ed up). Those two that favored it so heavily for Peter should have their licenses, as well as their eyesight, looked over.

                    That was the worst part. Scoring 9 rounds for Peter in that fight seemed outright crazy.

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