Tszyu v Maragrito

[Abe Attell]

Hey guys, remember why Hatton beat him though. A superior game plan and superior strength on the night, along with a dogged determination to win.

Like Juice I havent seen much of Margarito, however what I have seen is him boxing with a lot less technical skill than Ricky Hatton. He appears to be a bit of a brawler like Hatton but with less skill and an equally good chin. Am I wrong?

Im predicting Tszyu to win... If Tszyu wasnt so old, I would fair him with Mayweather also.

I still believe it was Tszyu's struggle to make weight because of his age, layoff, and frame, causing his muscles to be flat and weak.
I have known many athletes, boxers and wrestlers particularly, that have looked much different after trying to lose the weight for their fight, only to say they felt like they had "nothing."
Lets not forget the injury, both causing his layoff before the Mitchell (II) fight, and supposedly in the Hatton fight: injuries hinder performance. Yea, I know he looked "great" against Mitchell, but that was excitement that is more emotional: Tszyu was able to come back from the long layoff from injuries and knock Sharmba out in quick fashion, but go back and look at the fight and you will see Tszyu's timing was off. It was not until he stunned Sharmba that his “timing” looked better. Sharmba was scared ****less, didn't have the chin to take his punch causing him to get stunned early, and preventing us from seeing if Tszyu could go more than 6 tough rounds.


All that said, if you go back and look at Tszyu's entire career, from amatuers till now, his speed, reflexes, maybe a bit of his power, have gone down...the fire in his belly doesn't seem the same either. Age, wear and tear from injuries, is a *****.
We shouldn't count Tszyu out, but the guy isn't exactly in his "Prime"

[Abe Attell]

Now Tszyu will be in something like when Chavez fight with Kostya. I hope this fight happen.

Chavez was **** in that fight because of age, wear and tear, etc., but I don't think Chavez really had the chin to take Kostya's punches anyway. Yes I know, "Chavez has the greatest chin in the history of the sport"
Kostya and Oscar beat Chavez in Julio's prime...they are just to big, powerfull and skilled.

[Abe Attell]

Chavez was 37 with over 100 fights.

It's not the amount of fights as it is the amount of "Tough" fights...fights that are against top opponents.

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

Chavez was **** in that fight because of age, wear and tear, etc., but I don't think Chavez really had the chin to take Kostya's punches anyway. Yes I know, "Chavez has the greatest chin in the history of the sport"
Kostya and Oscar beat Chavez in Julio's prime...they are just to big, powerfull and skilled.

I have to put in my two cents because I disagree that Tszyu would beat a prime chavez I remember Tszyu gettying tko'd against Phillips in his prime and then he got stoped by Hatton it seem that he had trouble against fighters that can take his punch and keep coming foward with their own bombs.

[Abe Attell]

Both losses had their reasons: The fight with Phillips, not saying Phillips would have won anyway, but Tszyu if I remember correctly, was dealing with outside troubles, which was the dispute over his management/money. He was going to the gym late, and not training like he was supposed to...people were telling him to postpone the fight but Tszyu (with his ego) said he was going to win anyway.

Hatton, I have stated it many times before and it was not that big of a secret.

For pressure fighters fighting Tszyu that can take his power, probably agree.

Chavez, if bigger, would have a better chance, but Julio wasn't the size of Phillips or Hatton.

And Please don't be like everybody else and say that I am now a Tszyu "Nuthugger" simply because you like one fighter over the other. I have always stated my problems with Tszyu: (1)His ego tends to get in the way...when he is not the underdog he believes the hype and doesn't seem to have the same fire.
(2) He didn't move up to 147 to fight the big name fighters when they were there, Oscar, Shane, Tito, and even Vernon Forrest.

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

Both losses had their reasons: The fight with Phillips, not saying Phillips would have won anyway, but Tszyu if I remember correctly, was dealing with outside troubles, which was the dispute over his management/money. He was going to the gym late, and not training like he was supposed to...people were telling him to postpone the fight but Tszyu (with his ego) said he was going to win anyway.

Hatton, I have stated it many times before and it was not that big of a secret.

For pressure fighters fighting Tszyu that can take his power, probably agree.

Chavez, if bigger, would have a better chance, but Julio wasn't the size of Phillips or Hatton.

You got some pretty good points but I still think a prime chavez with his chin of steal and his non stop pressure would of broken down Tszyu's hearth. Dont get me wrong Tszyus is one of the best fighters ever and I think he was doing pretty good in the phillips fight and i dont know why the hell he quit on the Hatton fight because I tought it was a Real close fight.