Peter-Toney. The judges were right for once.

[Truth]

"Toney should act with more class sometimes"


There's the understatement of the day. Nine out of ten bums in the house of detention have more class than him.




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Its all in fun, most people laugh at Toney's antics.

[Kid Achilles]

It doesn't matter that the majority of people though Toney was robbed because of the majority of people on this site like Toney.

I find it interesting that a lot of former boxers on forums thought Peter won through imposing his strength and will on Toney and landing the more effective punches. Toney landed clean but those punches did nothing to halt Peter's momentum. Peter was the one forcing Toney back with every jab he landed. That's how you win rounds, not cute little shoulders rolls and counterpunches that have no effect on the opponenet. The difference between an Archie Moore or Joe Walcott and Toney is that the old guys could actually hurt and knock down their opponent with their counters. Toney is the least effective puncher at heavyweight I've ever seen. Even Chris Byrd could hurt a guy to the body as he proved vs. David Tua.

[paul750]

. Toney is the least effective puncher at heavyweight I've ever seen. Even Chris Byrd could hurt a guy to the body as he proved vs. David Tua.

Well it doesn't look that way, Ruiz' body was messed up, and Peter's face was marked, and so was Rahman's i believe. Tua was just gassed out against Byrd, more than anything else.

[beez721]

Actually Toney did stun Peter once. It was a bad decision, 90% of this site thinks it was a bad decision. Tons of writers and boxing experts thought it was a bad decision. For the most part the only people that really think Peter won, are people that hate James Toney.

peter was never hurt in the fight,,but it was a very very close fight and neither fighter dominated. I had peter up by one point but many of the rounds were very close and could have went the other way. the scoring was ridiculous in that 2 judges had peter well ahead but I did think peter eked out a close win. I do give toney credit for hanging in there with a much younger stronger guy and sucking it up when he was hurt. I also dont blame him for going after peter's manager. that guy is an annoying idiot and I think I'd have done the same thing

[beez721]

It doesn't matter that the majority of people though Toney was robbed because of the majority of people on this site like Toney.

I find it interesting that a lot of former boxers on forums thought Peter won through imposing his strength and will on Toney and landing the more effective punches. Toney landed clean but those punches did nothing to halt Peter's momentum. Peter was the one forcing Toney back with every jab he landed. That's how you win rounds, not cute little shoulders rolls and counterpunches that have no effect on the opponenet. The difference between an Archie Moore or Joe Walcott and Toney is that the old guys could actually hurt and knock down their opponent with their counters. Toney is the least effective puncher at heavyweight I've ever seen. Even Chris Byrd could hurt a guy to the body as he proved vs. David Tua.

I agree. peter's one punch was just so much more damaging than toney's 3 punches that you have to take that into condideration. peter's punches hurt and moved toney whereas toney's punches just had no impact besides a little swelling on peters face

[paul750]

Well they didn't hurt enough, because Toney was still there at the final bell, i don't even like Toney, but no one deserves poor decisions.

[Kid Achilles]

Doesn't matter that he didn't knock him out. Peters punches had Toney off balance and retreating throughout the fight. If you don't currently consider that into your scoring, you need to learn how to score a fight better.

[BmoreBrawler]

How about starting with Toney's fake decision over Rahman instead, to pick one out of ten million?

Good point.

[beez721]

Well they didn't hurt enough, because Toney was still there at the final bell, i don't even like Toney, but no one deserves poor decisions.

so becuase he wasnt knocked out means the times he was hurt and backed up doesnt count for anything? its a good thing your not a boxing judge

[werewolf]

It doesn't matter that the majority of people though Toney was robbed because of the majority of people on this site like Toney.

I find it interesting that a lot of former boxers on forums thought Peter won through imposing his strength and will on Toney and landing the more effective punches. Toney landed clean but those punches did nothing to halt Peter's momentum. Peter was the one forcing Toney back with every jab he landed. That's how you win rounds, not cute little shoulders rolls and counterpunches that have no effect on the opponenet. The difference between an Archie Moore or Joe Walcott and Toney is that the old guys could actually hurt and knock down their opponent with their counters. Toney is the least effective puncher at heavyweight I've ever seen. Even Chris Byrd could hurt a guy to the body as he proved vs. David Tua.

Well said!




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