It was close but Peter rightfully won.

[Red_Menace]

I agree with Kid. I had the fight scored at 117 to 113 for Peter. I don't think that fighting the first 10 seconds and the last 10 seconds of a round allows you to win that round. Peter was agressive through most of the fight and had Toney hurt a couple of times. The ref should have been all over Toney for holding on to the ropes after Peter cleaned his clock in the 5th (maybe 6th) round.

But I did think Toney fought well. He just spent to much time on the ropes and wasn't aggressive enough. It was a good fight and entertaining.

Round Peter/Toney

1. 10/9
2. 9/10
3 10/9
4. 10/10
5. 10/9
6. 9/10
7. 10/10
8. 10/9
9. 9/9 (I thought Peter was winning this round. The point deduction brought it to a 9/9 round.)
10. 10/9
11. 10/10
12. 10/9

Total 117 Peter and 113 Toney.

Toney on the ropes too much? What fight were you watching? Almost the entire fight was fought in the center of the ring.

[GunStar]

You can't fight the last 10 seconds of the round and win the fight.

What fight were you watching, how in the hell did you had Peter winning 4 of the first 5 rounds, you score is just as bad as the 2 judges, did you also got paid for your score.

Peter missed all night, Toney landed more punches and he was in control of the fight. This was not a close fight, only Toney haters thinks Peter won the fight.

I don't even want to waste my energy over a fight like this, really if anyone thinks Peter won the fight, it's time to become a fan of figure skating.

[Southpaw16]

I agree with Kid. I had the fight scored at 117 to 113 for Peter. I don't think that fighting the first 10 seconds and the last 10 seconds of a round allows you to win that round. Peter was agressive through most of the fight and had Toney hurt a couple of times. The ref should have been all over Toney for holding on to the ropes after Peter cleaned his clock in the 5th (maybe 6th) round.

But I did think Toney fought well. He just spent to much time on the ropes and wasn't aggressive enough. It was a good fight and entertaining.

Round Peter/Toney

1. 10/9
2. 9/10
3 10/9
4. 10/10
5. 10/9
6. 9/10
7. 10/10
8. 10/9
9. 9/9 (I thought Peter was winning this round. The point deduction brought it to a 9/9 round.)
10. 10/9
11. 10/10
12. 10/9

Total 117 Peter and 113 Toney.

you scored three of the rounds 10-10. This is not a very realistic scorecard because rounds are almost never scored even.

[7001]

Toney on the ropes too much? What fight were you watching? Almost the entire fight was fought in the center of the ring.

Your right. They were in the middle a lot. But I still think Toney spent to much time on the ropes. You can't tell me that Toney didn't spend time on the ropes.

[GunStar]

Your right. They were in the middle a lot. But I still think Toney spent to much time on the ropes. You can't tell me that Toney didn't spend time on the ropes.

Toney also got the better of Peter on the ropes.

[Red_Menace]

Toney won the rounds he won in a big way, but Peter won just about all of those close rounds through being the aggressor and actually knocking Toney back when he did connect. Even his jab was forcing Toney backwards. There was only one instance in the fight where Toney landed a combo and it actually caused Peter to hesitate to take a forward step.

This is pro boxing, not the amateur racket. You don't win a round by landing a higher % of punches than your opponent, you win it by doing more noticeable damage to your opponent with those punches than he does to you with his. It's quality over quantity in the pro game. That's why knockdowns have so much sway (10-8) on the judges card. If you stagger a guy in the round, and in that same round he doesn't stagger you once, and aside from that the the guy hasn't completed shut you out, then you win the round.

Peter's frigging jab was forcing Toney back every time it landed. That is more effective than a counter uppercut that doesn't make the opponent even blink. I don't care how crafty, quick, and dangerous looking that uppercut is, the punches that actually force a guy back count much more heavily in scoring.

Now I don't agree with the margin some of the judges had Peter winning by, but he definitely won.

Toney hit him with some very good shots. Peter was bleeding from the nose and mouth and had welts under his eyes.

It was a hard fought fight, and the rounds were not wipeouts. With the point deduction, I don't see how it would be possible for Peters to win that fight. That should have sealed the win in Toney's favour, in a close fight like that. Those scorecards were ridiculous.

[AllEyesOpen]

Sorry but Toney won that fight without a doubt, he was the smaller man with less reach but he was owning Peters with the Jab the whole fight & countering at will, the rounds Peters won he won convincingly & he seemed to have dazed Toney a few times, but those rounds were few & far between & the power wasn't enough to stop Toney, Toney was slipping shots all night lone, (including the rabbit punches). IMHO the out come to this fight(along with a few others this year) have really made me feel disgusted with the direction boxing is going, it seems no matter how well you beat another fighter, if you're the young &/or talented guy then the cards are in your favor, to win you have to knock them out, Toney did exactly what he came to do, he schooled Peters, Peters landed a few hard shots but other then that he was beat, plain & simple. As for the HW division this is a real set back considering that ANY of the HW titlist could beat Peters, Oleg will make easy work of him, he'll make him look as bad as Toney did, except he has the power to put him away. I just had to get that off my chest, take it or leave it

[7001]

What fight were you watching, how in the hell did you had Peter winning 4 of the first 5 rounds, you score is just as bad as the 2 judges, did you also got paid for your score.

Peter missed all night, Toney landed more punches and he was in control of the fight. This was not a close fight, only Toney haters thinks Peter won the fight.

I don't even want to waste my energy over a fight like this, really if anyone thinks Peter won the fight, it's time to become a fan of figure skating.

Only Toney lovers think he should have won that fight.

[Red_Menace]

Your right. They were in the middle a lot. But I still think Toney spent to much time on the ropes. You can't tell me that Toney didn't spend time on the ropes.

No, I can't say that, but I can say he spent little time on the ropes. He got rocked in rounds 3 and 5 and was on the ropes both times. Other than that, he wasn't on the ropes a lot during that fight. I'd say 80% of the fight, if not more, was in the center of the ring.

[DiegoFuego]

Toney won the rounds he won in a big way, but Peter won just about all of those close rounds through being the aggressor and actually knocking Toney back when he did connect. Even his jab was forcing Toney backwards. There was only one instance in the fight where Toney landed a combo and it actually caused Peter to hesitate to take a forward step.

This is pro boxing, not the amateur racket. You don't win a round by landing a higher % of punches than your opponent, you win it by doing more noticeable damage to your opponent with those punches than he does to you with his. It's quality over quantity in the pro game. That's why knockdowns have so much sway (10-8) on the judges card. If you stagger a guy in the round, and in that same round he doesn't stagger you once, and aside from that the the guy hasn't completed shut you out, then you win the round.

Peter's frigging jab was forcing Toney back every time it landed. That is more effective than a counter uppercut that doesn't make the opponent even blink. I don't care how crafty, quick, and dangerous looking that uppercut is, the punches that actually force a guy back count much more heavily in scoring.

Now I don't agree with the margin some of the judges had Peter winning by, but he definitely won.

you're a complete and utter joke if you had Peter winning more than 4 rounds. Get the **** off this forum.