Brian kenny KOs floyd again

[Super_Lightweight]

There's already a thread about this and I thought Floyd owned Kenny.

No surpise there.

[mECHsLAVE]

I didn't see it last night, but I know that Kenny totally owned him before the Judah fight, I mean made Floyd look like a complete and utter fool. Kenny owned him on every topic, every argument, and then when Floyd was totally flabbegasted with nothing to say he did the old "Well, you've never boxed, so you know nothing about boxing." LOL When you hear any athlete do this to a journalist/analyst you know one thing for sure, that athlete just got his ass handed to him and has nothing else to say. Hehe.

I'd be interested in seeing the interview from last night, if anyone finds a clip of it. Thanks!

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Yeah he did get owned before the Judah fight. I don't know why Floyd talked with him again. Floyd must not care too much.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

I wouldnt exactly say Kenny did any 'owning' there. PBF told him "Look, your a good announcer but you don't know anything about boxing" and to me you could see Kenny felt very embarrassed and uncomfortable after that. Because in the grand scheme of things Kenny knows what he is told about the boxing business and as far as the things he was discussing ith Floyd it ismerely the opnion of a boxing fan that also happens to work for ESPN. I wouldnt say just because a guy gets a job as an announcerit means he knows anymore than the averagedie hard boxing fan.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

[QUOTE=mECHsLAVE]LOL When you hear any athlete do this to a journalist/analyst you know one thing for sure, that athlete just got his ass handed to him and has nothing else to say. Hehe.


NAH, that's VERY untrue. It is when a guy that never boxed before says something that the boxers knows is wrong that the boxers calls him on it. The only ones that disagree and LOL about it are other people that never boxed. Its like the linear champ...Baldomir is the real champ etc like Kenny was saying.. thats NONSENSE....the linear titles have all been ruined since 25 years ago...... there are no more linear champions anymore...the sanctioning bodies have ruined that lineage. Floyd is 100 pct. right.... he needs no belt, no matter what a Brian Kenny says about his place in the game

[Mr. Ryan]

I wouldnt exactly say Kenny did any 'owning' there. PBF told him "Look, your a good announcer but you don't know anything about boxing" and to me you could see Kenny felt very embarrassed and uncomfortable after that. Because in the grand scheme of things Kenny knows what he is told about the boxing business and as far as the things he was discussing ith Floyd it ismerely the opnion of a boxing fan that also happens to work for ESPN. I wouldnt say just because a guy gets a job as an announcerit means he knows anymore than the average die hard boxing fan.

This is exactly correct. The only way that you can know boxing is if you've been a fighter. I fully accept it as a truth that my brief amateur experience doesn't make me an expert, I'm just your average fan with an informed opinion. I'm a regular student of the game, I learn from the same old, grainy films that the other guys watch.

Brian Kenny is a BS artist, but so are most writers/commentators that try to push their opinions as facts. I don't even know how much base to put on a commentator that doesn't cover boxing primarily.

What writers/announcers are skilled at are articulating their thoughts and opinions into written form, and then using their persuasive influence to generate a response from people. Kenny knows that, thats why he goes on the air every Friday night and says things that provoke responses from fighters and fans alike. Kenny knows what people tell him, and what makes sense in his mind he adapts as his code. But who doesn't do that in some sense. Bottom line is that Kenny is a journalist or commentator, and his job is to play MC to the fighters and trainers, the only people that really know the sport.

[mECHsLAVE]

[QUOTE=ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

LOL When you hear any athlete do this to a journalist/analyst you know one thing for sure, that athlete just got his ass handed to him and has nothing else to say. Hehe.


NAH, that's VERY untrue. It is when a guy that never boxed before says something that the boxers knows is wrong that the boxers calls him on it. The only ones that disagree and LOL about it are other people that never boxed. Its like the linear champ...Baldomir is the real champ etc like Kenny was saying.. thats NONSENSE....the linear titles have all been ruined since 25 years ago...... there are no more linear champions anymore...the sanctioning bodies have ruined that lineage. Floyd is 100 pct. right.... he needs no belt, no matter what a Brian Kenny says about his place in the game

Two instances come immediately to mind, although there are tons of them, across all sports.

Kenny v. Floyd, where Kenny was refuting that Mayweather was fighting for the welterweight championship with Judah, which he was NOT. It was a paper title, and Kenny was 100% right. Kenny also said Mayweather was a paper titlist at 140 and that Hatton was the champ there. Mayweather then got mad and asked if Kenny had ever boxed, and when Kenny said "No" then Mayweather says "Then you don't know anything about boxing.

Parkinson v. Ali, where Parkinson is doubting whether Joe Bugner is as good as he's ranked, when Ali said that "Bugner's better than Foreman, because I didn't knock out Joe Bugner." And Parkinson isn't buying it, so Ali asks if he's ever boxed, and when he says "No" then says "So why do you know so much about boxing?" Well, Parkinson was 100% correct, and Ali was mad because he was just caught. All Ali was trying to do was build up a rematch with Bugner.

Boxer's are sometimes right when they argue with analysts, and they are also completely wrong much of the time. Mayweather was 100% wrong, as was Ali. Both were trying to build themselves and their opponent up artificially, and got mad when they were called on it. Think about it like this, if the boxer actually HAS a point and is winning the argument, then WHY in god's name try to ask if the journalist has ever boxed? Just make your point, and win the argument on the merit of your knowledge and words, not what you've done in the ring versus what a journalist has done. That's an easy way out, and everytime I've seen it used in an argument, it's an athlete looking bad with his back against the wall and is frustrated, with nothing else to say.

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

[QUOTE=mECHsLAVE]Two instances come immediately to mind, although there are tons of them, across all sports.

Kenny v. Floyd, where Kenny was refuting that Mayweather was fighting for the welterweight championship with Judah, which he was NOT. It was a paper title, and Kenny was 100% right.

See thats what a guy like floyd is talking about...YOU think there is a succession of champs that lead to Baldomire...its all messed up... Floyd knew what most knew and think... the winner of Zab-Floyd was going to be thought of as the real champ. Even when RJ wasn't the "linear champ' there was nobody but people that care about such things who were saying that Roy wasn't the champ and that DM was. If you want to be thought of as the champion of the world at 147, FIGHTERS KNOW... u have to beat FLOYD and thats what he was telling Brian Kenny. Kenny was going by what the corrupt organizations were telling us. FIGHTERS know

[Piggu]

Two instances come immediately to mind, although there are tons of them, across all sports.

Kenny v. Floyd, where Kenny was refuting that Mayweather was fighting for the welterweight championship with Judah, which he was NOT. It was a paper title, and Kenny was 100% right.

See thats what a guy like floyd is talking about...YOU think there is a succession of champs that lead to Baldomire...its all messed up... Floyd knew what most knew and think... the winner of Zab-Floyd was going to be thought of as the real champ. Even when RJ wasn't the "linear champ' there was nobody but people that care about such things who were saying that Roy wasn't the champ and that DM was. If you want to be thought of as the champion of the world at 147, FIGHTERS KNOW... u have to beat FLOYD and thats what he was telling Brian Kenny. Kenny was going by what the corrupt organizations were telling us. FIGHTERS know

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[bakey321]

[QUOTE=ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Two instances come immediately to mind, although there are tons of them, across all sports.

Kenny v. Floyd, where Kenny was refuting that Mayweather was fighting for the welterweight championship with Judah, which he was NOT. It was a paper title, and Kenny was 100% right.

See thats what a guy like floyd is talking about...YOU think there is a succession of champs that lead to Baldomire...its all messed up... Floyd knew what most knew and think... the winner of Zab-Floyd was going to be thought of as the real champ. Even when RJ wasn't the "linear champ' there was nobody but people that care about such things who were saying that Roy wasn't the champ and that DM was. If you want to be thought of as the champion of the world at 147, FIGHTERS KNOW... u have to beat FLOYD and thats what he was telling Brian Kenny. Kenny was going by what the corrupt organizations were telling us. FIGHTERS know

You make a damn good point. Floyd would have been trashed for fighting Baldomir a few months ago. Now, he is being praised for it. IMO, Floyd has made all the right moves. He has called out all the greatest fighters in the game and turned down the ones who wouldn't enhance his "legacy". The haters are mad because there is nothing to bash him for right now. Notice how everyone was saying that he was ducking Margarito until he got the same money to fight Baldy for a more important title, now its all about his past fights against "nobodies". You can't please everyone (especially the ones who hate you no matter what), Floyd understands that and is doing what is best for him and his legacy.