Why Floyd will never be the greatest boxer of all time...

[Guest]

Even if the guy beats everyone put in front of him now, the level of competition will never be good enough at this stage in his career to cement his legacy against history.

I know there are a lot of younger posters here and some boxrec followers who get overexcited when they see a live talent, but please... don't lose respect for history.

That is all.

[PATO 1]

so ***in what, noone will come close to SRR

[Nacho_Analstain]

hes the greatest of this era and would compete well in the era of the historical greats in my opinion,hes umong the best

[Left2body]

Even if the guy beats everyone put in front of him now, the level of competition will never be good enough at this stage in his career to cement his legacy against history.

I know there are a lot of younger posters here and some boxrec followers who get overexcited when they see a live talent, but please... don't lose respect for history.

That is all.

At this point I would say no. But an arguement could be made IF within the next few years he fights and beats: DLH, Mosley, Hatton, Cotto, PWilliams and some other young up and coming top contenders.

However he will also need a little help in that the young contenders would have to have excellent careers in there own right otherwise it would seem like he fought an overhyped prospect. Similar to Jones's strongest arguement for greatness was his defeats of Hopkins and Toney who both went on to have excellent careers after Jones beat them.

Currently I wouldn't even have him in my top 20 ATG

[joeytrimble]

dude if you compair every fighter on the basis of robinson then NO one is an all time great...

i agree mayweather would do good agianst most all time opposition ..my ***** is he fails to fight the big timers

[Lights0ut]

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Even if the guy beats everyone put in front of him now, the level of competition will never be good enough at this stage in his career to cement his legacy against history.

LOL. What a joke. Old time fans never want to credit anyone or anything modern, no modern fighter could ever live up to their boyhood idols. Well guess what, OUR FIGHTERS ARE JUST AS GOOD.

I'll put a prime Roy, prime Pernell, prime Floyd, prime Tyson, prime Toney, up against any of your prime fighters, and like my chances. Your fighters are not better than ours, you just built them up a lot better than we did. I've seen plenty of tapes of Ali, and seen him go to war with BUMS -- I respect him and think he's the greatest, but a prime Tyson would give him hell regardless of what you fantasize about...I saw Ali lose twice to Ken Norton ( in my view) and Norton fought like an awkward doofus, I saw a club fighter Chuck Wepner take Ali 15 rounds and be virtually unfazed by his power. The difference between me and the old fight fans is that I know that doesn’t take away from Ali, but if a modern fighter has problem in a fight and doesn’t dominate completely, then it’s “XYZ fighter is so much better, he would have destroyed this guy”.

I have no ill towards the old fighters because I can see their greatness, but the same can't be said about older fight fans towards modern fighters. Older fight fans are disrespectful, arrogant, and degrading towards modern fighters and fans and I'm sick of it.

If Floyd can beat DLH, Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, Hatton, he'll be legitimately one of the greatest of all time....so stop the bull****, and stop detracting from things Floyd hasn't even done yet.

[joeytrimble]

exactly!...way to breach it brother lights out

[Guest]

LOL. What a joke. Old time fans never want to credit anyone or anything modern, no modern fighter could ever live up to their boyhood idols. Well guess what, OUR FIGHTERS ARE JUST AS GOOD.

I'll put a prime Roy, prime Pernell, prime Floyd, prime Tyson, prime Toney, up against any of your prime fighters, and like my chances. Your fighters are not better than ours, you just built them up a lot better than we did. I've seen plenty of tapes of Ali, and seen him go to war with BUMS -- I respect him and think he's the greatest, but a prime Tyson would give him hell regardless of what you fantasize about...I saw Ali lose twice to Ken Norton ( in my view) and Norton fought like an awkward doofus, I saw a club fighter Chuck Wepner take Ali 15 rounds and be virtually unfazed by his power. The difference between me and the old fight fans is that I know that doesn’t take away from Ali, but if a modern fighter has problem in a fight and doesn’t dominate completely, then it’s “XYZ fighter is so much better, he would have destroyed this guy”.

I have no ill towards the old fighters because I can see their greatness, but the same can't be said about older fight fans towards modern fighters. Older fight fans are disrespectful, arrogant, and degrading towards modern fighters and fans and I'm sick of it.

If Floyd can beat DLH, Mosley, Margarito, Cotto, Hatton, he'll be legitimately one of the greatest of all time....so stop the bull****, and stop detracting from things Floyd hasn't even done yet.

Blah, blah, a load of protracted insults in the place of genuine discussion.

I get tired of coming on here and reading BS like "Floyd will be the greatest fighter ever if he beat Hatton and old DLH".

I ain't saying the guy isn't great, but all this overhype is killing off any chance of taking him seriously. Don't piss on Sugar Ray by saying such things.

[Guest]

so ***in what, noone will come close to SRR

That's what I'm sayin' ain't it, yer nob knocker?

[AllEyesOpen]

If he were to go on from his original weight of 130 to beat the champ(Taylor) at 160 then IMHO he'd be the greatest, if he beats Winky at 154 along with Mosley & DLH then he deserves to be mentioned with the greats.