With the level of Comp Jermaine Taylor is fighting could be be the GOAT

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  • Kball15
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    #31
    give jermain taylor a few more years with emanuel steward and he will be a more complete fighter, and could easily become one the greatest middleweight champions to ever grace the sport with his presence.

    but right now, he has a very limited arsenal and is very amaturish. with time and experience in the kronk gym and with emanuel, he will learn to become great.

    His footwork is all wrong. He often punches from his shoulder because he doesnt get the right leverage on his punches.

    In the wright fight, he tried to counter off the ropes. an experienced fighter would know how to turn things around and get winky against the ropes.


    i think that this quote can settle some things...

    "but Jermain can be a better fighter than Hearns because he's already become a champion and he hasn't really even developed his skills yet. Tommy Hearns watched Jermain in training camp and said he would be a problem for him, Hagler, Leonard, or anybody for that matter." - EMANUEL STEWARD

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    • TheEvilSaint
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      #32
      Originally posted by kfootball15
      give jermain taylor a few more years with emanuel steward and he will be a more complete fighter, and could easily become one the greatest middleweight champions to ever grace the sport with his presence.

      but right now, he has a very limited arsenal and is very amaturish. with time and experience in the kronk gym and with emanuel, he will learn to become great.

      His footwork is all wrong. He often punches from his shoulder because he doesnt get the right leverage on his punches.

      In the wright fight, he tried to counter off the ropes. an experienced fighter would know how to turn things around and get winky against the ropes.


      i think that this quote can settle some things...

      "but Jermain can be a better fighter than Hearns because he's already become a champion and he hasn't really even developed his skills yet. Tommy Hearns watched Jermain in training camp and said he would be a problem for him, Hagler, Leonard, or anybody for that matter." - EMANUEL STEWARD
      do you enjoy pissing on the legacies of sugar ray robinson, marvin hagler, stanley ketchel, jake lamotta, fritzie zivic, and others?

      do you realize that even mentioning or even thinking that taylor could possibly ever merit mention along with these great fighters?

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      • Kball15
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        #33
        Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
        do you enjoy pissing on the legacies of sugar ray robinson, marvin hagler, stanley ketchel, jake lamotta, fritzie zivic, and others?

        do you realize that even mentioning or even thinking that taylor could possibly ever merit mention along with these great fighters?
        wow, do u realize how easily u get pissed off?

        and i said "one" of the greatest, not the greatest.

        and you have the completely wrong outlook on champions nowadays. the competition isnt THAT much worse, u do realize that... right?

        If taylor goes on to beat lacy, calzaghe, wright, ouma, forrest, quartey, etc. then of coarse i would mention his name among those.

        i wouldnt even think about it, his name would just pop into my head. would it mean that he is BETTER then them? no, but his name could definetly be mentioned if he acheives more wins over some future HOFers...

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        • TheEvilSaint
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          #34
          Originally posted by kfootball15
          wow, do u realize how easily u get pissed off?

          and i said "one" of the greatest, not the greatest.

          and you have the completely wrong outlook on champions nowadays. the competition isnt THAT much worse, u do realize that... right?

          If taylor goes on to beat lacy, calzaghe, wright, ouma, forrest, quartey, etc. then of coarse i would mention his name among those.

          i wouldnt even think about it, his name would just pop into my head. would it mean that he is BETTER then them? no, but his name could definetly be mentioned if he acheives more wins over some future HOFers...
          in today's time of horrid competition, laughable and repeated accomplishments, greed, profit, padded records and gift decisions, comparing taylor to the true greats is nothing short of blasphemy. there is no way that he could possibly be "one" of the greatest, it just isnt gonna happen. the true greatests didnt rely on gift decisions and didnt get to where they are because of the marketing decisions of a television network (namely HBO).

          of course taylor could beat those fighters you mentioned, but then again of course he could also move up to the HW division and knock everybody out, right? i know it sounds ridiculous, but so are his chances of beating those fighters.

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            #35
            jermaine got beat off hopkins in the first fight
            and beat off winky imo

            and remember although they ( at their ages are still top of the food chain ) are nowhere near their best

            jermaine could beat

            winky in a rematch
            beat calzaghe and whoever else came and i still would not put him in top 30 goat nevermind the goat

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              #36
              Originally posted by ferocity
              I don't see too many flaws in Taylor this is just the Taylor we are going to see and he will get better as his condition gets better along with the experiance hes getting. Winkys defense is over-rated, his chin is a lot better then i thought and Taylor doesn't hit as hard as I thought. Taylor landed a **** load of clean shots on Winky and Winky took them.

              If Taylor beat all those fighters GREATESTIAM mentioned then that is one hell of a resume. Jermain Taylor is the first fresh top contender Hopkins faced in many years, a true test and Hopkins failed. If Taylor had never appeared at middleweight Hopkins would still be Champion.
              winky never got hit flush..what ****in fight were you watching son

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              • Kball15
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                #37
                Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                in today's time of horrid competition, laughable and repeated accomplishments, greed, profit, padded records and gift decisions, comparing taylor to the true greats is nothing short of blasphemy. there is no way that he could possibly be "one" of the greatest, it just isnt gonna happen. the true greatests didnt rely on gift decisions and didnt get to where they are because of the marketing decisions of a television network (namely HBO).

                of course taylor could beat those fighters you mentioned, but then again of course he could also move up to the HW division and knock everybody out, right? i know it sounds ridiculous, but so are his chances of beating those fighters.
                if any of the fights i mention were to happen in december, i'd pick jermain to win every one of those...

                and jermain taylor and emanuel steward are the most honest duo's in boxing. they havent "padded" their record using any other method other then winning fights.

                and joe louis is widely considered the greatest heavyweight ever... but im sure u know all about the competition he faced. His "bum of the month" was a regular for him. Sure he faced great competition, but so will jermain taylor, even along with all of his victories over "bums."

                you can be considered the greatest ever in any era, good competition or bad.

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by kfootball15
                  if any of the fights i mention were to happen in december, i'd pick jermain to win every one of those...

                  and jermain taylor and emanuel steward are the most honest duo's in boxing. they havent "padded" their record using any other method other then winning fights.

                  and joe louis is widely considered the greatest heavyweight ever... but im sure u know all about the competition he faced. His "bum of the month" was a regular for him. Sure he faced great competition, but so will jermain taylor, even along with all of his victories over "bums."

                  you can be considered the greatest ever in any era, good competition or bad.
                  if you have seen his last three fights, you will see that jermain taylor cannot make a legacy out of winning the way he has. gift decisions to build great careers, just look at sven ottke.

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                  • Kball15
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                    if you have seen his last three fights, you will see that jermain taylor cannot make a legacy out of winning the way he has. gift decisions to build great careers, just look at sven ottke.
                    well he is only 27, and he DID beat hopkins once clearly. and to win more then 4 rounds over hopkins is a feat in itself.

                    and to have good looking moments against winky wright is another feat in itself.

                    when he develops his skills with emanuel steward, its possible to become one of the greats of the middleweight division. im not saying its likely or anything, but its most definetly possible.

                    and there is plenty of time for other great middleweight stars to develop, and then let taylor beat them, ya know?

                    ali wouldnt be quite the same, lagacy wise, had he not beaten foreman. but ali was old when foreman came around. when ali was in his prime, foremans was hardly alive! lol. so when taylor becomes 30-32, in his prime skill wise, there could be another rising superstar that he could fight. and when he's old he could beat yet another rising superstar that we havent even heard yet!

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