Best defensive boxers based on career statistics

[Gandhi]

Canelo has always had a good defense for the entire time he’s been at world level.

The same Canelo that was outboxed by Trout, hit easily by Shane Mosley & was eating potshots all night from Floyd?

His defense improved vastly after fighting Floyd cos he added Floyd's defensive style to his arsenal with head movement. Prior to that, his footwork was average & he was always there to be hit.

Numbers don't lie. If punches are connecting - it means your defence isn't all that. It might have wrinkles of fancy in there like Hamed used to dance around, but it won't stop you from getting hit.

[IronDanHamza]

The same Canelo that was outboxed by Trout, hit easily by Shane Mosley & was eating potshots all night from Floyd?

His defense improved vastly after fighting Floyd cos he added Floyd's defensive style to his arsenal with head movement. Prior to that, his footwork was average & he was always there to be hit.

Numbers don't lie. If punches are connecting - it means your defence isn't all that. It might have wrinkles of fancy in there like Hamed used to dance around, but it won't stop you from getting hit.

Well no because he wasn’t outboxed by Trout at all. He actually outboxed Trout and made him miss constantly with his very good defense.

He also wasn’t easily hit by Mosley at all. Canelo won every single round and Mosley barely landed a glove on him.

He was dominated by Floyd because Floyd is Floyd.

Canelo always had that style, he was always a good boxer with a good defense. He didn’t magically become a defensive fighter after his fight with Floyd.

The numbers do lie, and they lie blatantly.

To even remotely imply that AJ, a guys who’s defense is not even good, is even comparable to that of Canelo’s is literal living proof at how numbers lie and how worthless these statistics are.

[Gandhi]

Well no because he wasn’t outboxed by Trout at all. He actually outboxed Trout and made him miss constantly with his very good defense.

He also wasn’t easily hit by Mosley at all. Canelo won every single round and Mosley barely landed a glove on him.

He was dominated by Floyd because Floyd is Floyd.

Canelo always had that style, he was always a good boxer with a good defense. He didn’t magically become a defensive fighter after his fight with Floyd.

The numbers do lie, and they lie blatantly.

To even remotely imply that AJ, a guys who’s defense is not even good, is even comparable to that of Canelo’s is literal living proof at how numbers lie and how worthless these statistics are.

Why are you lying?

Canelo vs Trout Compubox:

Overall Punches: Trout out-landed Canelo 154 to 124 and was more active, throwing 769 shots to Canelo's 431; Canelo was far more accurate than Trout, landing 29% to only 20% for Trout.

https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/...%20for%20Trout.

Canelo was more accurate but Trout out-landed him due to volume.


Canelo vs Shane Compubox:

Shane connected on 25% of his punches but 41% of his power punches.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/v...0by%20CompuBox.

You're probably a Canelo fan. However, it doesn't negate reality & numbers don't lie. I don't rate Canelo since he hasn't fought any elite boxers apart from Floyd & GGG. And I believe he lost to both Lara & Trout. Canelo is just as overrated as Fury is. That's my opinion & you're entitled to yours.

But numbers don't lie!

[IronDanHamza]

Why are you lying?

Canelo vs Trout Compubox:

Overall Punches: Trout out-landed Canelo 154 to 124 and was more active, throwing 769 shots to Canelo's 431; Canelo was far more accurate than Trout, landing 29% to only 20% for Trout.

https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/...%20for%20Trout.

Canelo was more accurate but Trout out-landed him due to volume.


Canelo vs Shane Compubox:

Shane connected on 25% of his punches but 41% of his power punches.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/v...0by%20CompuBox.

You're probably a Canelo fan. However, it doesn't negate reality & numbers don't lie. I don't rate Canelo since he hasn't fought any elite boxers apart from Floyd & GGG. And I believe he lost to both Lara & Trout. Canelo is just as overrated as Fury is. That's my opinion & you're entitled to yours.

But numbers don't lie!

You know compubox is two men clicking a button right? It’s literally a flawed system.

You can argue Trout could have got the decision against Canelo, but you definitely cannot argue that he outboxed him because that simply didn’t happen. You could argue he outworked him because he barely landed any clean hard punches.

Canelo on the other hand made him miss easily (with his very good defense) and landed the cleaner punches far.

Mosley was totally outclassed by Canelo. After that fight Canelo didn’t have a mark on him as Mosley landed almost nothing of any significance.

You can cite your numbers all you want, they’re worthless.

[Gandhi]

You know compubox is two men clicking a button right? It’s literally a flawed system.

You can argue Trout could have got the decision against Canelo, but you definitely cannot argue that he outboxed him because that simply didn’t happen. You could argue he outworked him because he barely landed any clean hard punches.

Canelo on the other hand made him miss easily (with his very good defense) and landed the cleaner punches far.

Mosley was totally outclassed by Canelo. After that fight Canelo didn’t have a mark on him as Mosley landed almost nothing of any significance.

You can cite your numbers all you want, they’re worthless.

By that logic, compubox is just as flawed as your eyes cos of your own bias as a Canelo fan.

Also, you need to watch a fight at least 3 times to be close to accurate in seeing who's landing & who isn't. So, in all honestly, the only person that's accurate is the person getting punched in the face.

And if that's the case, we have to go with verifiable numbers. We can agree to disagree but I think Canelo is overrated & he should have 4 losses on his resume if not for boxing politics.

[IronDanHamza]

By that logic, compubox is just as flawed as your eyes cos of your own bias as a Canelo fan.

Also, you need to watch a fight at least 3 times to be close to accurate in seeing who's landing & who isn't. So, in all honestly, the only person that's accurate is the person getting punched in the face.

And if that's the case, we have to go with verifiable numbers. We can agree to disagree but I think Canelo is overrated & he should have 4 losses on his resume if not for boxing politics.

The last thing to do by is the compubox numbers.

The numbers are irrelevant because they have been proven flawed over and over again and often not even accurate.

[Gandhi]

The last thing to do by is the compubox numbers.

The numbers are irrelevant because they have been proven flawed over and over again and often not even accurate.

Just as yours eyes as a Canelo fan are flawed. If you're not getting punched in the face - you can't be accurate.

Agree to disagree. Canelo isn't all that & any good boxer can look invincible fighting basic upright boxers like Canelo does consistently.

[edgarg]

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Interesting stats.

I'm impressed with Ioka. Doesn't do much showboating but he's very effective. It just shows that showboating & weaving your head doesn't make you great defensively - foot speed helps a great deal.

NICOLINO LOCCHE-- 136 fights, many against the very top class champs and ex champs. FOUR Losses only, lost his 7th fight and then after a run of about 60 wins or draws lost another, and then the 8th fight before he retired.

HAS ONLY FOURTEEN KNOCKOUTS....... Incomparable, Unique. The best defensive boxer in History. Won his 140 lb title from unbeaten Champ Paul Fuju, who actually gave UP in disgust in the middle of rd 10 because he couldn't hit this guy standing right in front of him. You can see it often on this site as guys post that video.

Was a nicotine addict, often took a puff ot two betwen runds his corner crowding around him. As I say ..UNIQUE.. Maybe Young Griffo, from newspaper accounts, but Locche is on VIDEO. Everyone else comes a very distant second, say down about 20 rungs on the ladder

None of those guys your list contains can reach even up to his shoes.

[edgarg]

I'd pick Pep & Benitez over Looche.

You're SO ALONE....!! SHows how little you know about boxing. At least give a reason.......

Pep was a feet defensive fighter, and well over half his fights were during the war years when the best boxers were overseas. Besides, he had a KO punch.

Locche was a reflexive defensive fighter woth NO punch and won by frustrating hi opponents into quitting, or just giving it away. They just couldn't HIT HIM

That can't be said about Pep whose face alone, shows that he received his share of punches.,

[Eff Pandas]

AJ is #5?!?!?!?!?!?

Randomly Floyd was 22.5%. So according to these numbers AJ gots a better defense than Floyd lol.

Jokes made, I just think this is a glimpse of what these guys all look like at or near their peak & compubox ain't exactly gospel either. But lets pull these numbers up in 5 years after a bunch of them got some more L's or some straight up ass beatings on their resume & see how these numbers look.