Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: Yildirim, Saunders in May, Then We Want Plant

[MONGOOSE66]

I’m not interested in seeing him fight any of those guys. Easy wins. Wish GGG was 10 years younger or Andre award never retired.
Yes, he’s that good.

[factsarenice]

I don't do silly name calling but I will help you out of the cult like group think...if I can.

Wrong he fought trout lara ggg jacobs maywather smith all in their prime...when i read dumb azz comments like yours it just reminds me when a dumbazz little kid wont stop mimicking the older kids its annoying do some research before you post dumb crap

1) Canelo taking the Lara fight was a way to avoid better competition in the same weight class. BTW, if you saw the fight you know Canelo lost, the win was a gift.

2) Trout was a prime nobody and he still is. Trout has been beaten many, many times and by fighters Canelo continues to avoid.

3) Everyone but you aknowlege that Canelo ducked GGG in his prime. when Canelo was mandatory he gave up the belt and waited until GGG got old and lost a step against Jacobs.

4) Jacobs had trouble making weight for GGG so they forced him into draconian "no re-hydration" clause to make certain he was not prime at 160lbs. If you follow boxing you should know that.

5) Smith is a prime Caleb Plant lite. There are many, many better fighters to pick from but none with a belt that are as easily beaten. Charlo, Andrade, Bivol and Benavidez tomention a few.

6) Floyd Mayweather Jr was 36 and not exactly prime but he sure did put on a boxing clinic.

[El_Maldito_Rey]

Canelo is the problem, he simply does not want to fight David, Charlo, Bivol or Andrade at 160 or 168 or any other weight.

If fighting one of Canello's hand picked targets is the prerequisite you can forget it. Pillow hands Plant will never give a killer like Charlo (a guy Canelo avoided) a shot for any amount while Canelo dangles a payday. If anything Plant may fight another nobody while waiting for Canelo to make up his mind, BUt he is not fighting Charlo, Andrade, Bivol or Benavidez.

You may not agree but one thing is for absolutely certain...

If Canelo made an offer to Charlo, Andrade, Bivol or Benavidez they'd fight Canelo next Tuesday.

BTW, at one time I thought Saunders would be competitive but not anymore. The way he was negotiating was a red flag, like Plant he's just there just to collect a check on the way out.

Canelo has made it no secret that his plan is to unify the 168 belts.

If these dudes are putting their careers on hold to see what Canelo does next, then they have bigger issues.

WBO and IBF belts are next, they need to make boss moves and demand to fight Plant in May. I don't want to hear no damn excuses, Charlo, Benavidez and Plant are all in the same promotional company. What's the hold up with the fight getting made in May? Plant just fought a couple of weeks ago, we are already almost at the end of the month, why no movement with Charlo?

BTW when are Bivol and Beterbiev going to fight? When are Charlo and Andrade going to unify?

[El_Maldito_Rey]

charlo was champ at 154 when canelo said he wanted a belt there and instead canelo chose Liam smith, charlo was canelos wbc mandatory at mw and canelo didn’t fight him and let the wbc take his belt, charlo was offered to canelo for 25 mil this past December and he declined, so how do you figure that fighting plant will “secure” a canelo fight. Likewise, Benavidez was champion at 168 when canelo said he was “chasing history” and canelo picked Rocky fielding. I do agree that some of these guys should start fighting each other because obviously canelo is only interested in a certain kind of opponent and they don’t fit that description.

Way not to answer my question.

I'm not talking about what happened at 154 or 160. That's the past. Canelo has made it abundantly clear that it's the WBO in May then the IBF in September. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it.

Let me say it again, the WBO in May. IBF in September.

Still not understanding?

WBO vs Saunders in May, that fight is basically signed and agreeded upon.

IBF vs whomever holds it, in September.

There's plenty of time for Charlo, Andrade and Benavidez to pressure for a fight with Plant in May.

Again, what's the hold up?

[batista84]

Have you ever posted anything that sheds light on boxing, that is devoid of vitriol, that is not hateful? Try it. Not everything is about race and not everything is about hate. Not everything is about race and not everything is about hate. Perhaps you will find out boxing is actually interesting when you shed the nonsensical clichés and provide some objective insights about boxers and the sport. I have to believe that you actually do know the sport, but don't want to share what you know with the rest of us but would rather spend your time denigrating others.

The dude is a troll, stop giving him attention.

[kushking]

I don't do silly name calling but I will help you out of the cult like group think...if I can.




1) Canelo taking the Lara fight was a way to avoid better competition in the same weight class. BTW, if you saw the fight you know Canelo lost, the win was a gift.

Lara was literally considered the most difficult kryptonite fight he could take & Lara was the best ranked potential opponent,& Canelo beat the sht outta Lara who landed almost no power shots to Canelos almost 90% power shots & a insane amount of power body shots,& Lara was saved by Byrds terrible reffing from a kd at least if not 2.



5) Smith is a prime Caleb Plant lite. There are many, many better fighters to pick from but none with a belt that are as easily beaten. Charlo, Andrade, Bivol and Benavidez tomention a few.


(Caleb Plant sucks & would get beat by Smith,& lets see how much of a bum he turns into when Canelo fights him after 4 fights back to back,& even though Plant is required to do IBF next day weigh in, I'm sure you'll claim millions of excuses afterwards like claiming Canelo didn't sign a year in advance nor give him time to recover from his yearly bum fight....

6) Floyd Mayweather Jr was 36 and not exactly prime but he sure did put on a boxing clinic

(Floyd literally forced Canelo to weightdrain & bragged about it you hypocrite ass.(the level of your hypocrisy is astounding, calling a ibf rules draining but claiming Floyd put on a clinic without m mentioning the fact he was weightdrained

This has to be nominated for ******est troll post of 2021, I'll go through them 1 by 1 nice & slow for the low iq.

1) Canelo taking the Lara fight was a way to avoid better competition in the same weight class. BTW, if you saw the fight you know Canelo lost, the win was a gift.

Lara was literally considered the most difficult kryptonite fight he could take & Lara was the best ranked potential opponent,& Canelo beat the sht outta Lara who landed almost no power shots to Canelos almost 90% power shots & a insane amount of power body shots,& Lara was saved by Byrds terrible reffing from a kd at least if not 2.

2) Trout was a prime nobody and he still is. Trout has been beaten many, many times and by fighters Canelo continues to avoid.

Trout vs Canelo was a lineal fight between #1/#2 & was Undefeated & prime,& he was only beaten clearly by Canelo & then again very late in his career,Charlo was a 50/50 fight w Trout

Everyone but you aknowlege that Canelo ducked GGG in his prime. when Canelo was mandatory he gave up the belt and waited until GGG got old and lost a step against Jacobs.


Canelo signed to fight ggg in 1st fight at mw, exactly 1 yr after he won WBC belt in the ring unlike ggg who was at mw for 10 yrs & beat nothing but scrubs. When ggg was in his prime Canelo was 21 yrs old & you didn't even know who tf ggg was.(ggg wasted over a yr "negotiating"(ducking) Jacobs who was his mando & the type he avoids like plague.(you claim Canelo ducked hypejob ggg in his prime for not signing the minute he beat the lineal mw Cotto whom ggg happily stepped aside from despite being mando (Because he didn't want to budge a single lb)

Your entire argument is a joke & is cancelled out by "Ggg ducking Jacobs "& saying it was over 200k(in other words if Canelo ducked ggg for 1 yr by not giving in to his diva 45% demands then ggg ducked Jacobs hoping hed get Canelo before having to cash in v Jacobs,in no world did Canelo duck ggg in his prime as he wasn't champ in his prime & he aged himself 1 yr multiple times).

4) [/B]Jacobs had trouble making weight for GGG so they forced him into draconian "no re-hydration" clause to make certain he was not prime at 160lbs. If you follow boxing you should know that.

It was literally you & your ilk who were claiming Jacobs weight cheated ggg & came in at hw,& that ggg won because of it. Jacobs had just beaten Deryev with ibf rehydration clause numbnuts,& Canelo was at a DISADVANTAGE Because Jacobs blew off 2nd weigh in Canelo abided by(So Jacobs was heavier & stronger than Deryev version Because he had weight advantage)

5) Smith is a prime Caleb Plant lite. There are many, many better fighters to pick from but none with a belt that are as easily beaten. Charlo, Andrade, Bivol and Benavidez tomention a few.


(Caleb Plant sucks & would get beat by Smith,& lets see how much of a bum he turns into when Canelo fights him after 4 fights back to back,& even though Plant is required to do IBF next day weigh in,& Canelo will waive that rule, I'm sure you'll claim millions of excuses afterwards like claiming Canelo didn't sign a year in advance nor give him time to recover from his yearly bum fight....

6) Floyd Mayweather Jr was 36 and not exactly prime but he sure did put on a boxing clinic

(Floyd literally forced Canelo to weightdrain & bragged about it you hypocrite(the level of your hypocrisy is astounding, calling a ibf rules draining but saying Floyd put on a clinic without mentioning the fact he was weightdrained shows your agenda

[budfr]

Bad news for the fans, good news for Plant. Plant has great skills but lacks power and heart, not an elite-level fighter. He also fights bums. Now he has the perfect excuse not to fight Benavidez. Hope Canelo fights GGG and not Plant.

[budfr]

This has to be nominated for ******est troll post of 2021, I'll go through them 1 by 1 nice & slow for the low iq.

1) Canelo taking the Lara fight was a way to avoid better competition in the same weight class. BTW, if you saw the fight you know Canelo lost, the win was a gift.

Lara was literally considered the most difficult kryptonite fight he could take & Lara was the best ranked potential opponent,& Canelo beat the sht outta Lara who landed almost no power shots to Canelos almost 90% power shots & a insane amount of power body shots,& Lara was saved by Byrds terrible reffing from a kd at least if not 2.

2) Trout was a prime nobody and he still is. Trout has been beaten many, many times and by fighters Canelo continues to avoid.

Trout vs Canelo was a lineal fight between #1/#2 & was Undefeated & prime,& he was only beaten clearly by Canelo & then again very late in his career,Charlo was a 50/50 fight w Trout

Everyone but you aknowlege that Canelo ducked GGG in his prime. when Canelo was mandatory he gave up the belt and waited until GGG got old and lost a step against Jacobs.


Canelo signed to fight ggg in 1st fight at mw, exactly 1 yr after he won WBC belt in the ring unlike ggg who was at mw for 10 yrs & beat nothing but scrubs. When ggg was in his prime Canelo was 21 yrs old & you didn't even know who tf ggg was.(ggg wasted over a yr "negotiating"(ducking) Jacobs who was his mando & the type he avoids like plague.(you claim Canelo ducked hypejob ggg in his prime for not signing the minute he beat the lineal mw Cotto whom ggg happily stepped aside from despite being mando (Because he didn't want to budge a single lb)

Your entire argument is a joke & is cancelled out by "Ggg ducking Jacobs "& saying it was over 200k(in other words if Canelo ducked ggg for 1 yr by not giving in to his diva 45% demands then ggg ducked Jacobs hoping hed get Canelo before having to cash in v Jacobs,in no world did Canelo duck ggg in his prime as he wasn't champ in his prime & he aged himself 1 yr multiple times).

4) [/B]Jacobs had trouble making weight for GGG so they forced him into draconian "no re-hydration" clause to make certain he was not prime at 160lbs. If you follow boxing you should know that.

It was literally you & your ilk who were claiming Jacobs weight cheated ggg & came in at hw,& that ggg won because of it. Jacobs had just beaten Deryev with ibf rehydration clause numbnuts,& Canelo was at a DISADVANTAGE Because Jacobs blew off 2nd weigh in Canelo abided by(So Jacobs was heavier & stronger than Deryev version Because he had weight advantage)

5) Smith is a prime Caleb Plant lite. There are many, many better fighters to pick from but none with a belt that are as easily beaten. Charlo, Andrade, Bivol and Benavidez tomention a few.


(Caleb Plant sucks & would get beat by Smith,& lets see how much of a bum he turns into when Canelo fights him after 4 fights back to back,& even though Plant is required to do IBF next day weigh in,& Canelo will waive that rule, I'm sure you'll claim millions of excuses afterwards like claiming Canelo didn't sign a year in advance nor give him time to recover from his yearly bum fight....

6) Floyd Mayweather Jr was 36 and not exactly prime but he sure did put on a boxing clinic

(Floyd literally forced Canelo to weightdrain & bragged about it you hypocrite(the level of your hypocrisy is astounding, calling a ibf rules draining but saying Floyd put on a clinic without mentioning the fact he was weightdrained shows your agenda

Very well explained. I must add, and this is something that might sound delusional but it isn´t, Canelo is from Mexico so had no experience fighting slick Afro-American boxers, so basically Canelo was surprised by Floyd but by no means was Canelo ever hurt, or in danger just mad because Floyd was basically pot shotting, hugging Canelo all the time, running, and the referee never deducted a point. There was no rematch for a reason. A Mexican-American like Victor Ortiz was giving Floyd hell, De La Hoya, or JL Castillo who had many fights in the US and knew about the slick Afro-American style. Maidana knew about it too, being trained by Mexican-American Robert Garcia and gave Floyd a beating twice but was robbed.

[budfr]

I’m not interested in seeing him fight any of those guys. Easy wins. Wish GGG was 10 years younger or Andre award never retired.
Yes, he’s that good.

Andre Ward, the one who lost to Kovalev but was given a gift decision?? GGG 10 years younger was not in Canelo´weight. GGG was called by Zurdo Ramirez and chickened out so STFU.

[Jab jab boom]

Way not to answer my question.

I'm not talking about what happened at 154 or 160. That's the past. Canelo has made it abundantly clear that it's the WBO in May then the IBF in September. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it.

Let me say it again, the WBO in May. IBF in September.

Still not understanding?

WBO vs Saunders in May, that fight is basically signed and agreeded upon.

IBF vs whomever holds it, in September.

There's plenty of time for Charlo, Andrade and Benavidez to pressure for a fight with Plant in May.

Again, what's the hold up?

not answering the question? I’m following up on my original point which you chose to comment on, so you’re actually the one deflecting. My original point was that Canelo has chosen to focus on fighting various white fighters while not even entertaining fights with either charlo bro when he was at 154, charlo or Andrade at 160 and didn’t entertain Benavidez when he was champ at 168. So I’ve established a pattern that if when some of these guys are his mandatory or are a possibility for a unification , canelo still doesn’t look their way. It’s clear that the only reason he wants to unify now is because it’s the easiest route to go and none of those guys I mentioned are in the way. That’s what you’re not getting. This was a calculated move. So as I said, these guys should fight each other because no matter what, canelo has made it clear that they’re not in his plans and we all know why.