If Canelo Struggles With BJS What Does It Mean To You?

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  • MUNG
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    #11
    it means nasal sprays are going to become very popular

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    • boliodogs
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      #12
      Nothing Saunders has done makes me think he is that good. His best wins are points wins over guys GGG KOed years ago like Monroe, Lemieux and near 40 year old Murray. Saunders just barely beat Eubank and Eubank could probably beat him now. Canelo should easily beat Saunders and probably knock him out. If he struggles with Saunders he either had an off night or is not as good as I think he is. Canelo is trying to win all the belts and unify 168 so that is a good goal. Canelo got a good start on that goal by easily beating number 1 ranked 168 pound champion Smith. He has to fight the Turk next or lose his title as per agreement with the WBC. Then he fights Saunders and then Plant and if he wins all those fights as expected then he has unified 168 so he is fighting the guys he is supposed to fight.

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      • -Kev-
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        #13
        I wouldn’t hold it against a fighter if their opponent refuses to engage.

        If your opponent is a runner, then you have to win the fight by pressing. If you press a runner who refuses to engage or throw anything of note, and you’re throwing better punches (landing or not), chances are judges will give you the round.

        The 3 judges and ref in Canelo vs Lara could have all been Cubans. It was difficult to score rounds for him because he just wasn’t engaging, not outlanding, more inactive and was just not pressing the fight. Canelo virtually won by default.

        If BJS fights like this, I will not hold it against Canelo. I will hold it against the loser, BJS, who would just squander his chances of any other big paydays or a rematch.

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        • Larry the boss
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          #14
          Says nothing, styles make fights, just have to see how he adjusts and that is the sign to look at

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          • Boxing-1013
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            #15
            Originally posted by MPDKSAB
            I think BJS boxes better off the back foot.

            Not necessarily, it could just mean Canelo has problems with that style. I think BJS is the weakest champ at 168 & Plant, Andrade, & Benavidez all beat him decisively. None of whom fight like Canelo.

            Not necessarily. Hard for me to say Canelo is special with all the help he's received in his career. & with how BJS talked about Canelo's PED test then testing positive himself, there's no doubt in my mind if not both, BJS definitely will be juicing for this fight.

            Respect.
            BJS is a hard guy for me to figure. My guess is when he has his 'nasal spray' he is about as good as anyone. Without the 'help', I think he is pretty average as he just doesn't keep himself in good enough shape to be top level.

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            • Boxing-1013
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              #16
              Originally posted by Songbird
              it means nasal sprays are going to become very popular
              yeah basically this...

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              • MPDKSAB
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                #17
                Originally posted by Songbird
                it means nasal sprays are going to become very popular
                Can't argue with you there, both these guys are suspect tbh.
                Originally posted by boliodogs
                Nothing Saunders has done makes me think he is that good. His best wins are points wins over guys GGG KOed years ago like Monroe, Lemieux and near 40 year old Murray. Saunders just barely beat Eubank and Eubank could probably beat him now. Canelo should easily beat Saunders and probably knock him out. If he struggles with Saunders he either had an off night or is not as good as I think he is. Canelo is trying to win all the belts and unify 168 so that is a good goal. Canelo got a good start on that goal by easily beating number 1 ranked 168 pound champion Smith. He has to fight the Turk next or lose his title as per agreement with the WBC. Then he fights Saunders and then Plant and if he wins all those fights as expected then he has unified 168 so he is fighting the guys he is supposed to fight.
                BJS is a good fighter tho, if you were teaching a young fighter about boxing they could learn a lot from him tbh, as far as what he does IN the ring. He has a good boxing IQ.
                Originally posted by -Kev-
                The 3 judges and ref in Canelo vs Lara could have all been Cubans. It was difficult to score rounds for him because he just wasn’t engaging, not outlanding, more inactive and was just not pressing the fight. Canelo virtually won by default.

                If BJS fights like this, I will not hold it against Canelo. I will hold it against the loser, BJS, who would just squander his chances of any other big paydays or a rematch.
                Naa no way, majority of people felt Canelo lost to Lara..

                If Canelo wins decisively there is no rematch. If he wins controversially a la him & Lara & doesn't give a rematch its going to look verrrry bad & be a lot of backlash on his part.
                Originally posted by LarryX....
                Says nothing, styles make fights, just have to see how he adjusts and that is the sign to look at
                Naa it says something for sure. Could mean he hasn't improved against that style although I highly doubt it.

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                • hugh grant
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                  #18
                  If he beats bjs, and bjs turns up unlike Callum did. It will be a good win

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                  • Apollo7
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                    #19
                    I personally wouldn't be surprised but what it would mean is:

                    1. Styles make fights.

                    2. Saunders is a bit under rated.

                    3. Canelo is a bit over rated.

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                    • deathofaclown
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                      #20
                      It means Saunders is a very good fighter, which I believe he is, and a bad style for Canelo


                      The last slick southpaw Canelo fought was Lara and he arguably lost that. We can say Canelo is a better fighter now but there is no fights or evidence we can look at that says he can deal with slick southpaws any better than before.

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