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  • MONGOOSE66
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    #81
    The money is with Pac so why not.

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    • blowblow
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      #82
      Originally posted by Oregonian
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      At least you agree all the others are BUMS.
      When was the last time Broner was a world champion??? He wasn’t when he fought PAC. He was coming off two losses and a draw.

      Lastly, that’s your excuse that “he didn’t let his hands go”? Really?
      So if he “let his hands go” he would have beaten all the guys he lost to? So any boxer who “lets his hands go” will win?
      I know guys on crack that make more sense!!!
      letting his hands go doesn't mean he will beat anyone but you can't take away that he has a higher chance to win than not letting his hands go.. do you understand boxing? it' a punching sports you can't win if you don't hit (unless you are floyd who can still win by clinching, hugging and running plus paid ref and judges). please mate you can use common sense here. don't be ignorant.

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      • Lefty0616
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        #83
        This is a dumb article. Everyone prefers Pacquiao. He's a lottery ticket.

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        • Ldouglas
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          #84
          Father Time's still the champ.

          Totally agree Pack's still chasing Floyd, should've retired long ago. Thurmond wasn't anywhere near who he use to be. Any young gun beating Pac, only beating his name. That's what they'll say. Make sure all get tested! That's the real concern.

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          • Ldouglas
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            #85
            Fools continue to hate Floyd for being a true artist in the sport. Hit without being hit, (boxing).

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              #86
              Originally posted by Oregonian
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              At least you agree all the others are BUMS.
              When was the last time Broner was a world champion??? He wasn’t when he fought PAC. He was coming off two losses and a draw.

              Lastly, that’s your excuse that “he didn’t let his hands go”? Really?
              So if he “let his hands go” he would have beaten all the guys he lost to? So any boxer who “lets his hands go” will win?
              I know guys on crack that make more sense!!!
              Just to be fair.

              A NON-aggressive Broner took 4 rounds off Manny.

              An aggressive Bradley (who's power is nowhere near Broner) took 5 rounds off Manny in the second fight.

              If a NON-aggressive power puncher (which was Broner) was able to take 4 rounds, and feather-fisted Bradley took 5 with Manny getting walked down, and power puncher Keef took 6 but got dropped and showed up too late...

              My money is on Broner fighting like he's supposed to, beating Manny 8-4.

              Does he beat others? Maybe. But he's not that guy anymore.

              All I know is, the Broner that showed up against Granados gives everyone in the division, not named Errol Spence, a rough night. I don't know what he was on that night, but he needs to get back on it.

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              • Oregonian
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                #87
                Originally posted by blowblow
                letting his hands go doesn't mean he will beat anyone but you can't take away that he has a higher chance to win than not letting his hands go.. do you understand boxing? it' a punching sports you can't win if you don't hit (unless you are floyd who can still win by clinching, hugging and running plus paid ref and judges). please mate you can use common sense here. don't be ignorant.
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                Since you are so smart and all trying to teach me about boxing, let’s go with your own logic, shall we ?

                It’s a punching sport - Broner gets paid millions to fight. It’s his job to train and get ready for a fight. He has a team around him that do their job. All that means he should come to “let his hands go”, if he doesn’t do that, that’s his problem. We just don’t want to hear the BS excuse you are making for him.

                Broner got beat because he got beat by the better person.

                As for your Floyd example which is clear toxic hate for the man because he wasn’t in this discussion, you have zero knowledge of boxing.

                Sugar Ray Leonard fought exactly like Floyd in his rematch with Duran, he also fought that way against all the other guys when he moved up in weight and yet most people consider him a top 3 GOAT.

                PAC fought Broner who was coming off a draw and a loss. That is a fact. Why couldn’t he fight a legit WW???

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                • Oregonian
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by revelated
                  Just to be fair.

                  A NON-aggressive Broner took 4 rounds off Manny.

                  An aggressive Bradley (who's power is nowhere near Broner) took 5 rounds off Manny in the second fight.

                  If a NON-aggressive power puncher (which was Broner) was able to take 4 rounds, and feather-fisted Bradley took 5 with Manny getting walked down, and power puncher Keef took 6 but got dropped and showed up too late...

                  My money is on Broner fighting like he's supposed to, beating Manny 8-4.

                  Does he beat others? Maybe. But he's not that guy anymore.

                  All I know is, the Broner that showed up against Granados gives everyone in the division, not named Errol Spence, a rough night. I don't know what he was on that night, but he needs to get back on it.

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                  My money is on Broner fighting like he's supposed to, beating Manny 8-4.“

                  BUT he did NOT. You are basically saying if you buy a lottery ticket you might win the jackpot but you NEVER buy the ticket. Stop with the hypotheticals.

                  Broner got beat by Mikey Garcia and Maidana as well but let me guess, if he was kore aggressive he would have won??
                  He was not. Period. And he lost.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    Since you are so smart and all trying to teach me about boxing, let’s go with your own logic, shall we ?
                    Broner got beat because he got beat by the better person.

                    - broner is great fighter but neutralized by pac coz he was the better fighter. we are talking about broner coz you lined him up with those others.. he was better than them. so giving him as an example is really ******.

                    As for your Floyd example which is clear toxic hate for the man because he wasn’t in this discussion, you have zero knowledge of boxing.

                    -don't be denial. i know you also witnessed how floyd fought scared.. that is the 1st time i saw him literally run. step back so wide just to avoid getting hit. even his father told him he was fighting scared.


                    Sugar Ray Leonard fought exactly like Floyd in his rematch with Duran, he also fought that way against all the other guys when he moved up in weight and yet most people consider him a top 3 GOAT.

                    -floyd was far more boring than what SRL did.

                    PAC fought Broner who was coming off a draw and a loss. That is a fact. Why couldn’t he fight a legit WW???

                    -draw and a loss doesn't mean the fighter wasn't a worthy opponent.. he might have a bad night unless he was on a losing streak.. pac lost but came back dominating (does it mean he was not worthy too). after the loss he was still the apple of the eye of the most fighters until now. pac was the one always called out. does it make sense?

                    i'm not a fan of broner who was the fcking friend of talkative shields.
                    Last edited by blowblow; 02-18-2021, 03:41 PM.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Oregonian
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                      My money is on Broner fighting like he's supposed to, beating Manny 8-4.“

                      BUT he did NOT. You are basically saying if you buy a lottery ticket you might win the jackpot but you NEVER buy the ticket. Stop with the hypotheticals.

                      Broner got beat by Mikey Garcia and Maidana as well but let me guess, if he was kore aggressive he would have won??
                      He was not. Period. And he lost.
                      Ok, so basically what you're saying is...

                      When Manny took an L to Jeff Horn, you don't care that he took the fight lightly and didn't show up - he lost. Period.

                      When Manny took an L to Floyd Mayweather, you don't care that he threw his career lowest # of punches and barely threw in 10 of the 12 rounds - he lost. Period.

                      When Amir Khan took an L to Crawford, you don't care that Crawford hit him with a low blow - he lost. Period.

                      When Rigo took his first L to Loma, you don't care that Loma vastly outsized him - he lost. Period.

                      When Canelo Alvarez took an L via blowout from Floyd, you don't care about the weight diff or age diff - he lost. Period.

                      When Golovkin took his first L to Canelo, you don't care about Golovkin fighting tenative - he lost. Period.

                      When Lucas took an L to Manny, you don't care that there was NO random drug testing - he lost. Period.

                      When Wilder took his first L to Fury, you don't care that Fury showed power he's NEVER shown before - Wilder lost. Period.




                      Do I have all that right?

                      Because if you dispute any one of them, you're a hypocrite.


                      We always have to analyze the CIRCUMSTANCES of losses, not just the loss. Especially if it's not a blowout loss.

                      Manny slows down by round 7. Every time. That means anyone with a strong tank and aggression is going to beat him. We've seen it time and again. This isn't old school Manny. His technique now is to try and end you early, and if he can't do that, steal the rounds by activity in the last minute or so of each. Which is why the judges gave it to Horn - he was way more active, way more aggressive and Manny wasn't fighting like he normally does/should.

                      Sound familiar?

                      It's the same problem with Broner (Porter). Same problem with Porter (Ugas). Same problem with Keef (Josesito). Same problem with Danny Swift (Herrera).

                      When fighters don't fight like they should, they either take an L or come close to taking an L. Broner is no different and real fans recognize that he's not the same fighter.

                      Now, whether that's mental due to Chino (don't think so because Granados & Theophane) or physical, regardless, he's not the same fighter. If he WERE the same fighter, he beats this tentative version of Manny Pacquiao for the same reason Horn beat him.

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