Ruiz performance vs AJ 2 is one of the worst I've ever seen.

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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #1

    Ruiz performance vs AJ 2 is one of the worst I've ever seen.

    I just rewatched it and it's changed my opinion slightly.

    AJ moved but it wasn't as much movement as I remembered, he kept Ruiz turning but it was more of him just walking side to side and sticking an arm in Ruiz face rather than bouncing around or "running".

    For Ruiz part he barely took any risks all he did was trundle forward in straight lines waving his hands slightly and trying an occasional long range jab, really awful from Ruiz.

    Honestly, Ruiz Jr sucks and he will never beat another top fighter because nobody is going to literally stand stock still and exchange with him again and he can't hit anything other than a stationary target.

    And he's fat.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
    I just rewatched it and it's changed my opinion slightly.

    AJ moved but it wasn't as much movement as I remembered, he kept Ruiz turning but it was more of him just walking side to side and sticking an arm in Ruiz face rather than bouncing around or "running".

    For Ruiz part he barely took any risks all he did was trundle forward in straight lines waving his hands slightly and trying an occasional long range jab, really awful from Ruiz.

    Honestly, Ruiz Jr sucks and he will never beat another top fighter because nobody is going to literally stand stock still and exchange with him again and he can't hit anything other than a stationary target.

    And he's fat.
    Don’t worry, Reynoso will add more warfare to Ruiz’s arsenal

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    • F!x
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      Ruiz was almost the heaviest of his entire career in that rematch, he was only heavier in his debut and his second fight which were both back in 2009. He just made the biggest purse of his life in the first fight, splashed out and went crazy with it which is a predictable story for someone getting major money for the first time. If he dedicates himself better he's still a Top 10 fighter. The problem is, I've watched Ruiz for years before the AJ fight and he always says "I'm gonna be in better shape next time" after the fights but he never seems to get there. So it may be that he'll never reach his full potential.

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      • nino brown21
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        #4
        Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
        Don’t worry, Reynoso will add more warfare to Ruiz’s arsenal
        He better cause he wasn't doing Oscar or nery any favors . instead molding and blending styles it seems like hes just trying to turn them into canelos.

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          Originally posted by nino brown21
          He better cause he wasn't doing Oscar or nery any favors . instead molding and blending styles it seems like hes just trying to turn them into canelos.
          That’s not how boxing works. Coaches don’t train “styles.” They only give instruction on what to do in situations. Next is how to do it effectively, and lastly, amp reflexes with mitt work for all that. Mitt work/reflex work seen by Reynoso isnt a “style” just that is exclusive to Canelo. TMT family has shown the best combination reflex work that the grand master Floyd accomplished well. It doesn’t mean other TMT gym fighters could do it too, like him, but the reflex work helps. It’s why Plant and Haney are good at THEIR styles, because of the reflexive mitt work

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          • DaNeutral.
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            As much as I wanted AJ to win I was disgusted with Ruiz. He had just won a load of world titles, something the majority of pro Boxer dream of and mostly will only dream of and then he just partied all the way up to the rematch.

            I don't know if he just thought the same thing would happen again or whether he just got carried away with the new found money and fame but he disgraced himself and didn't focus on the rematch at all.

            At the same time Joshua lost, made no excuses, took the immediate rematch and got to work. Very professional, the opposite of Ruiz. Its things like that that make me such a big fan of AJ. I can see he is far from the perfect Boxer but i can also see he tries his hardest to be the best he can be and I have massive respect for that.

            As for the running scared BS Joshua employed a safety 1st game plan but he didn't run scared. He took control and did the work to win the rounds, he left it up to Ruiz to have to come in and try to do something to earn some point where he would punish him. Like the OP states, Ruiz just didn't so Joshua wasn't going to put himself in danger when he was already in full control. I'd of loved to see an aggressive Joshua demolish Ruiz in style but the smart plan was the plan we saw. It was Ruiz who didn't want to play.

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              Hopefully he would not turn up fat for his future fights. Yes he isn’t going to be cut like some but he has the advantage of hand speed against any HW out there, against Parker once he landed on him Parker literally ran and fought from the outside all night. So he does have power but would need to work on his movement (By not getting too fat.)

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              • mlac
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                AJ looked terrified every time mexican Michelin man landed in the rematch

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                  I just rewatched it and it's changed my opinion slightly.

                  AJ moved but it wasn't as much movement as I remembered, he kept Ruiz turning but it was more of him just walking side to side and sticking an arm in Ruiz face rather than bouncing around or "running".

                  For Ruiz part he barely took any risks all he did was trundle forward in straight lines waving his hands slightly and trying an occasional long range jab, really awful from Ruiz.

                  Honestly, Ruiz Jr sucks and he will never beat another top fighter because nobody is going to literally stand stock still and exchange with him again and he can't hit anything other than a stationary target.

                  And he's fat.
                  You are spooked for Tyson Fury, regarding the up and coming Anthony Joshua fight.

                  This thread is a attempt to mildly comfort yourself, and convince yourself of certain things.

                  I have already told you before, I think Tyson Fury should win the fight 'He just himself needs not to get spooked, like the last time he was in this position'.

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                  • Kezzer
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                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                    As much as I wanted AJ to win I was disgusted with Ruiz. He had just won a load of world titles, something the majority of pro Boxer dream of and mostly will only dream of and then he just partied all the way up to the rematch.

                    I don't know if he just thought the same thing would happen again or whether he just got carried away with the new found money and fame but he disgraced himself and didn't focus on the rematch at all.

                    At the same time Joshua lost, made no excuses, took the immediate rematch and got to work. Very professional, the opposite of Ruiz. Its things like that that make me such a big fan of AJ. I can see he is far from the perfect Boxer but i can also see he tries his hardest to be the best he can be and I have massive respect for that.

                    As for the running scared BS Joshua employed a safety 1st game plan but he didn't run scared. He took control and did the work to win the rounds, he left it up to Ruiz to have to come in and try to do something to earn some point where he would punish him. Like the OP states, Ruiz just didn't so Joshua wasn't going to put himself in danger when he was already in full control. I'd of loved to see an aggressive Joshua demolish Ruiz in style but the smart plan was the plan we saw. It was Ruiz who didn't want to play.
                    Exactly this. Its easy to say Joshua just moved from side to side but how many fighters try that but don’t success - he made it look really easy and sometimes fans (or otherwise) don’t really understand exactly what he has done.

                    Joshua won each round comfortably because he was always getting shots in, but unlike other fights - he didn’t follow up and restricted himself/pulled himself out of range after a successful punch. This was learning from the first fight, people can say that’s a weakness if they really want to hate - but all it shows is that he learned from his mistake previously and made sure to put it right. Remember that if he lost the second fight then his career wouldn’t have been over, but he would’ve been looking at fighting the likes of Stiverne etc next.

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