Grade a fighter day 14: What grade do you give Marco Antonio Barrera?

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  • edgarg
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    #11
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
    A +.

    But I do think Prince Naseem Hamed was under par vs Barrera. People tend to overrate that performance, it was hardly a beat down etc
    Totally agree.Hamed barely trained. Has very crumlng hands was thinking to reture already for a couple of years. Manny Steewart who undertook his last 2 weeks of training said he wasn't training seriously in Bing Crosby's old home, mostly barely going theoru the motions.

    So, like you, perceptive as you are, I feel the cery same, and I remember the whole episode. There's so much more to a fight that's untold. Anyway Barrerra should have been Q for the post ramming insicent.

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    • HitmanTommy
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      #12
      Originally posted by edgarg
      Totally agree.Hamed barely trained. Has very crumlng hands was thinking to reture already for a couple of years. Manny Steewart who undertook his last 2 weeks of training said he wasn't training seriously in Bing Crosby's old home, mostly barely going theoru the motions.

      So, like you, perceptive as you are, I feel the cery same, and I remember the whole episode. There's so much more to a fight that's untold. Anyway Barrerra should have been Q for the post ramming insicent.
      Would training have made much of a difference though?

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      • Ochoa780
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        #13
        Damn yall put broner and margarita over Kahn..? Kahn gets no love lol

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        • Dodger07
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          #14
          Hes an A or A- for me. Around the same level as Mosley

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          • PRINCEKOOL
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            #15
            Originally posted by edgarg
            Totally agree.Hamed barely trained. Has very crumlng hands was thinking to reture already for a couple of years. Manny Steewart who undertook his last 2 weeks of training said he wasn't training seriously in Bing Crosby's old home, mostly barely going theoru the motions.

            So, like you, perceptive as you are, I feel the cery same, and I remember the whole episode. There's so much more to a fight that's untold. Anyway Barrerra should have been Q for the post ramming insicent.
            Yes terrible performance by Prince Naseem hamed, he was still able to win some rounds 'But some people make out as if he was completely humiliated'.

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            • boliodogs
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              #16
              I gave him an A+. He was a hell of a good fighter with a great record and fighters like him is what an A+ grade is for.

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              • ramses07
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                #17
                yeah I dont know about A plus lol

                got knocked out too many times

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                • edgarg
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Yes terrible performance by Prince Naseem hamed, he was still able to win some rounds 'But some people make out as if he was completely humiliated'.
                  You could easily see that in the fight itself he was messing around and not seriously using his real boxing skills. Yet it was a 112-116 result. One more rd making 113=115 would have nbeen better. But I still say that the deliberate ramming of hi head into the tyrnbuckle should havehad Barrera disqualifie. I've seen DQ's for far lees, for nothing in fact, except the ******ity or worse of the refs, like Emanuel Augustus being so unfairly DQ'd.

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                  • edgarg
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by HitmanTommy
                    Would training have made much of a difference though?
                    That we'll never know, but it would have to have had a much better effect, because the end result was still only a 112-116 loss, hardly a beatdown. And Hamed was a really top class champ for years. Even with training , his hands were crumbling anyway. I've seen picturs of them before and after fights. Before... they looked horrible, knuckles missing or out of place. After ...much more ghastly, like a Frankenstein horror hand. I'm sure I saw a hand missing two knuckles with one huge protruding knuckle.

                    I think they were, by that time and before, just cobbling his hands together the best way they could, after so many breaks, and shattered shard of bone needing to be removed..

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