Comments Thread For: Mark Tibbs Confident He Can Raise The Game of Daniel Dubois

[Angeljuice]

To be honest Dubois should come over to America to train.

Lol, yeah the American Heavyweight scene is where it's at right now.

[ShoulderRoll]

Lol, yeah the American Heavyweight scene is where it's at right now.

Better trainers here, without question.

[landotter]

Cheering for him. Took a big risk with the Joyce fight. Want him to be the poster child for other boxers that a loss is not the end in boxing.

[Angeljuice]

Better trainers here, without question.

Maybe, but the proof is in the pudding. If Americans are great at training heavyweights, why aren't there any great American Heavyweights?

Your top two heavyweights, Ruiz and Wilder are both notoriously bad in training so these American trainers are producing the likes of Washington and Hunter. Both of whom are flawed.

I'm saying all this a bit tongue in cheek, but outside Fury's dalliance with Sugar there's not much evidence to support the idea. Did Fury fight better with Sugar? He was different, stronger but not boxing better, just bullying more.

[57Blues]

I know the money is in the USA but are the facilities the trainers the whole overall set up accross the board something that puts the fighters at a disadvantage in this case the U.K. to stay put ? Was a time fighters from the USA were the best lot of weight classes. Now it feels like the USA is the place to come to make the money it has the platform, the opportunity for a way to break out, get fights and big money. Not a shot at those that feel it is the place to train. I look at the USA as a draw for opportinity for sure. But they do bring there own trainers and crew with them these days more then in the past right ? I don't know a for sure answere just yet.

[rudy]

I hear you. Ask Kell Brook what Derrick James' fighters are like. thats no knock on Kell. Kell is great. James may not have trained a heavyweight. so what? he can tighten Dubois' defense. how to block a damn jab, move his head, the half step back. Tibbs won't help him. Not even close. James would make him like a heavyweight Spence. Dangerous, always aggressive, jabbing a lot better with subtle head movement blocking, slipping & picking off punches, leading and counterpunching effectively and in tip top shape. In the UK, a lot of trainers just say go get him, but they can't teach when, how, and why to do certain things. it's just rough and tumble over there. Ingle is about the best there but Dubois doesn't fit with him either

Dubois is too dumb to understand defence that why never shown him.

[REDEEMER]

Maybe, but the proof is in the pudding. If Americans are great at training heavyweights, why aren't there any great American Heavyweights?

Your top two heavyweights, Ruiz and Wilder are both notoriously bad in training so these American trainers are producing the likes of Washington and Hunter. Both of whom are flawed.

I'm saying all this a bit tongue in cheek, but outside Fury's dalliance with Sugar there's not much evidence to support the idea. Did Fury fight better with Sugar? He was different, stronger but not boxing better, just bullying more.

Sugar Hill taught him how to punch correctly. All what you stated is part of boxing better . Even Freddie Roach gave Fury better advice in the first fight and Davison’s advise cost him the official win .

Fighters aren’t as good as they are because of the trainer only ,the fighters have to be as well , I think it’s clear Fury would be better under Hill ,it’s still doesn’t mean he defeats A.J .

I would also argue Joyce looked really good under Sanchez against Stiverne even just one fight and rivaled what he looked like now under Salas who trained him for the fight even absent on the night .

[Thuglife Nelo]

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[KingGilgamesh]

Maybe, but the proof is in the pudding. If Americans are great at training heavyweights, why aren't there any great American Heavyweights?

Your top two heavyweights, Ruiz and Wilder are both notoriously bad in training so these American trainers are producing the likes of Washington and Hunter. Both of whom are flawed.

I'm saying all this a bit tongue in cheek, but outside Fury's dalliance with Sugar there's not much evidence to support the idea. Did Fury fight better with Sugar? He was different, stronger but not boxing better, just bullying more.

This is idiotic. The only successful British boxer who hasn't trained all that much in America is Joshua. And even he has integrated American trainers into his team...and then he's very boring, conservative fighter lacking in ingenuity in the ring. Joyce has trained extensively in America. Fury's "dalliance" with Sugar? What? Fury trained under Manny Steward extensively who earmarked him as a future title holder.

The rest of the British heavyweights are junk or not really worth mentioning. Whyte isn't good and Chisora isn't either. Neither are any better than the B-level heavyweights in America like Hunter and Ruiz. If you study them you'll notice they're all plodders, lacking head movement and lack a well developed jab.

Brits act like this is some rennaisance of the British heavyweight scene when there are only really two who have done anything of note and one other who looks like a serious contender.

[Angeljuice]

This is idiotic. The only successful British boxer who hasn't trained all that much in America is Joshua. And even he has integrated American trainers into his team...and then he's very boring, conservative fighter lacking in ingenuity in the ring. Joyce has trained extensively in America. Fury's "dalliance" with Sugar? What? Fury trained under Manny Steward extensively who earmarked him as a future title holder.

The rest of the British heavyweights are junk or not really worth mentioning. Whyte isn't good and Chisora isn't either. Neither are any better than the B-level heavyweights in America like Hunter and Ruiz. If you study them you'll notice they're all plodders, lacking head movement and lack a well developed jab.

Brits act like this is some rennaisance of the British heavyweight scene when there are only really two who have done anything of note and one other who looks like a serious contender.

I don't think the Brits are great, I know the Yanks aren't even close though. Utterly pathetic American Heavyweight scene (Lovejoy did look good though, lol).

You have nobody in the HW division that is better than Whyte and there's a gulf from Whyte to Fury/AJ.

A paper champ with average rank of opponents being 260. A fat boy who got lucky once and was almost beaten by a has-been that never was, Washington who looks like a Greek statue (and moves like one too), The "Bounty Hunter" who has just retired (well he ran from Hrgovic and lost all respect and his ranking).

So knock the UK all you like, we own you right now.