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  • budfr
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    #21
    Hey Bread. You may know a lot about boxing but you don't take into account the culture, traditions, ethnic styles which are important. The only reason Canelo lost vs Floyd was because he was not used to fight " slick " boxers. Black slick boxers don´t exist in Mexico and that style is not liked. So Canelo was surprised and didn´t know what to do. Canelo said that Floyd had no power, was never hurt at any point and that FLoyd fights like an Olympic boxer, just potshotting, hugging, and running. He was also weight drained and used Floyd´s gloves. Floyd didn´t want a rematch vs Canelo. Floyd also ducked fighters that throw many punches like Margarito, Williams, GGG, etc. and fighters that were athletic like Sergio Martinez, Khan, etc. If referees start deducting points to slick boxers for hugging, not fighting ( running ), boxing would be much better.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Robi13
      Well no sh.it plant is an excellent boxer he is a world champ any world champ is an excellent boxer I’m just saying he is trash for that level... a trash champ is still a champ. Bread is a smart man but I’ve said it before he isn’t the end all be all. His opinions sometimes are mixed and he sometimes contradicts himself in the same paragraph 😂
      his opinions are mixed and he contradicts himself but you preceded that statement by saying plant is an excellent boxer but also trash. Lmaoooo
      I swear I can’t make these interactions up.

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      • budfr
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        #23
        Originally posted by Jab jab boom
        seems like reynoso agrees with Bread. And actually disagrees with you since you said plant sucks. Ohhh noooo

        “Caleb is an excellent boxer,” Eddy Reynoso, Alvarez’s longtime trainer told BoxingScene.com. “He fights really nice. He has a good job, works his legs well and uses the entire ring well.”
        Yes, Reynoso said that. But Plant also lacks power, has a non-tested chin, has no heart. Those are important factors in boxing. You may move nice and throw 20 punches that won´t hurt a fly.

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          #24
          Originally posted by budfr
          Hey Bread. You may know a lot about boxing but you don't take into account the culture, traditions, ethnic styles which are important. The only reason Canelo lost vs Floyd was because he was not used to fight " slick " boxers. Black slick boxers don´t exist in Mexico and that style is not liked. So Canelo was surprised and didn´t know what to do. Canelo said that Floyd had no power, was never hurt at any point and that FLoyd fights like an Olympic boxer, just potshotting, hugging, and running. He was also weight drained and used Floyd´s gloves. Floyd didn´t want a rematch vs Canelo. Floyd also ducked fighters that throw many punches like Margarito, Williams, GGG, etc. and fighters that were athletic like Sergio Martinez, Khan, etc. If referees start deducting points to slick boxers for hugging, not fighting ( running ), boxing would be much better.
          Dayuuuuuuum and I can’t say I disagree I’m 100 percent with you my friend!!!

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            #25
            Originally posted by Jab jab boom
            his opinions are mixed and he contradicts himself but you preceded that statement by saying plant is an excellent boxer but also trash. Lmaoooo
            I swear I can’t make these interactions up.
            I said for that level bro... he is trash for a champ... obviously still a champ... reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit I’m not here to debate with you if I have explain in every single detail. Thought you’d be smarter than that... just drop it bro. Go on do your thing I’ll do mine cool? Cool

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              #26
              Originally posted by budfr
              Yes, Reynoso said that. But Plant also lacks power, has a non-tested chin, has no heart. Those are important factors in boxing. You may move nice and throw 20 punches that won´t hurt a fly.
              well the point of my post is the person I sent it to has been on record saying “plant sucks” and here said we need a reynoso mailbag. So I took the opportunity to show him that reynoso actually disagrees with his assessment and agrees with bread. Now to your point, yes plant lacks power but that’s what people said about mayweather, ward and Calzaghe too yet none of those three lost a single fight. I’m not saying plant is on their level at all, but the overall point is whether plant has a style to cause canelo problems despite a lack of power and many believe he can.

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              • Robi13
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                #27
                I said it once and I’ll say it again, plant is garbage for a champ. He will get beat soon as he fights Benavidez or Canelo and they will have 0 problems doing it. Plant will look cute for a few early rounds, but sooner or later David and Canelo will catch him then it’s zzzzzzzzzzz time

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Robi13
                  I said for that level bro... he is trash for a champ... obviously still a champ... reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit I’m not here to debate with you if I have explain in every single detail. Thought you’d be smarter than that... just drop it bro. Go on do your thing I’ll do mine cool? Cool
                  don’t try to backtrack now because I exposed you being hypocritical. You have flat out said before “plant is trash”. But now that I showed you reynoso’s post, and you’re like, ohhh yeah he’s excellent but trash for a champion. What a dummy. Either you’re an excellent boxer or you’re not. Belts have nothing to do with it. If plant is trash for a champion as you say, then what does that make Callum smith who has less boxing skills than plant? Or Liam smith? Or Rocky fielding? Or this Yidilgrim guy? They all have less skills than plant. Plant actually has better movement, faster hands, a better jab than all of them. So if plant is trash and canelo wants to fight him and faced guys with less skills than him, then I guess you’re saying that canelo has been targeting mostly trash fighters , right??

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                  • Robi13
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                    #29
                    Don’t out too much weight onto trainers calling fighters good boxers, at the end of the day trainers get paid by boxers so they can potentially earn a check from any boxer if not now in the future. I rarely see a trainer call a fighter trash, but always see them praise boxers and it goes back to this very same reason that they can earn money with said boxer at some point... but plant is trash for a champ... and when he steps up he will be exposed as that... a garbage champ

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by budfr
                      Yes, Reynoso said that. But Plant also lacks power, has a non-tested chin, has no heart. Those are important factors in boxing. You may move nice and throw 20 punches that won´t hurt a fly.
                      Aint no way a guy ranked 15-20 should be going 12 rounds with a champion.

                      Plant is very green and gonna learn real quick there are many levels between Canelo and Caleb Traux.

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