Julio César Chávez vs Mike Tyson

[Vlad_]

Equal size Chavez would no longer have the speed, agility or stamina, so Tyson by KTFO.

[ICEMAN666]

Equal size Chavez would no longer have the speed, agility or stamina, so Tyson by KTFO.

Equal size and age....

[Dodger07]

Assuming all of their prime skills/attributes transferred over to whatever "hypothetical" weight class they fight in, I'd slightly favor Chavez but it would be a fantastic match-up.

The inside fighting/trench battles would be a sight to behold for sure. Along with devastating power, Tyson also head great head movement and fast hands. Chavez had an atg chin and great stamina. Both loved to cut the ring off and **** to the body and utilize the uppercut at close range so no one would be backing down.

It would be one sided early on, with tyson getting the better of the exchanges with his big, fast power shots and ability to avoid clean shots himself. The mid rounds would see a war being waged, as Chavez gets into a groove and tyson slows down a bit. By the end of the fight, a bloodied and bruised Chavez keeps moving forward as tyson runs out of steam. His body finally gives out and Chavez walks away with an 11th round tko victory.

[War Room]

In your opinion, if Chávez and Tyson were the same age and were in the same weight class...who would you put your money on?

Realistic answers please...

Realistic answer? Unrealistic comparison! No heavyweight in history could throw punches in punches like Chavez could.

[ICEMAN666]

Realistic answer? Unrealistic comparison! No heavyweight in history could throw punches in punches like Chavez could.

Point taken.

However, like I mentioned before, I joined this forum to learn.

It was a sincere question. If both were the same age and same weight class, I was wondering what the outcome would be is all. I always admired both boxers. Even going back 30 years ago.

[Mindgames]

Well...they all had 4-5 inches in height and 7=8 inches in reach> I didn't say that everyone crumbles. You are confirming what In said, that he had several tough full 12 rounders and he didn't crumble. I know Chavez was very good but I saw him fight several times and I'm sure that Tyson would break him don with sheer power and evesive head movement. His doubl right hand to the body and head followed by an uppercut would eventually cut Xhavez down. I don't say he's JO him. But he's beat him in pinching power, speed and defnce. And in those days he was very determined which means he would NOT "crumble". He had a winners mind-set all the way.

Chavez couldn't punch anything like Tyson either.

No,but Chavez had great volume ,and was built more for stamina ,whereas Mike was explosive but fought in burst.Chavez had great defence too,a square on but a style that allowed for great head movement,no vulnerability to power.Nobody is going to match pace with that Chavez,just see him out working Mike tbh.

[War Room]

Point taken.

However, like I mentioned before, I joined this forum to learn.

It was a sincere question. If both were the same age and same weight class, I was wondering what the outcome would be is all. I always admired both boxers. Even going back 30 years ago.

I get it man, I appreciate the sentiment and the willingnes to learn. But these types of questions are always going to be stacked and lopsided.

Like, if Robinson was the same size as Lennox Lewis, who would win? Always Robinson, he's the goat. Can a heavyweight of Lennox' size ever fight like Robinson? 6'5" with 85" reach, not humanly possible. Fury is the closest thing and he's pretty goofy in there. I'm a Fury fan, but it's impossible to not be clumsy at that size.

Regarding Chavez, he was good but he's a bit inflated. He fought a lot a lot of bums. 65-0 he fought a 0-1, 69-0 he fought a 5-3, 77-0 he fought a 7-5, 82-0 he fought a 10-11. Know what I mean? He's got a few names sprinkled in there, but the big big names he fought, he got gifts (Sweepea, Meldrick 1) or lost. He's not on a Tyson level to me, I don't rate Chavez that high.

When he fought Oscar he was 34. 34 is not prime and you're for sure at the end of your career, but Chavez wasn't like shot like Ali was shot against Leon Spinks and Oscar obliterated him. Oscar was working Chavez in sparring when he was 16 years old, youtube it.

I think a lot of guys at 140 beat Chavez. Manny would for sure. Lower weights? Barrera and Morales beat his a$$ too at 125.

Watching Chavez vs Lockridge now, am I doing backflips over his skill? Not really.

[edgarg]

No,but Chavez had great volume ,and was built more for stamina ,whereas Mike was explosive but fought in burst.Chavez had great defence too,a square on but a style that allowed for great head movement,no vulnerability to power.Nobody is going to match pace with that Chavez,just see him out working Mike tbh.

I don't agree that Tyson "fought in Bursts". What you call bursts, were the opportunities he MADE with his brilliant way of getting in close enough to use his short arms. In those days he threw 5-6 punch combinations, nearly all of them on the target.

We've both made good points and can agree to differ. The fight can never happen , but the discussion on it is positive.

[Mindgames]

I don't agree that Tyson "fought in Bursts". What you call bursts, were the opportunities he MADE with his brilliant way of getting in close enough to use his short arms. In those days he threw 5-6 punch combinations, nearly all of them on the target.

We've both made good points and can agree to differ. The fight can never happen , but the discussion on it is positive.

I dont mean bursts in the way Wilder does,I just mean he was a fast twitch power combination puncher rather than a volume punching pressure fighter.Dont get me wrong, I love Mike,I just cant see anyone beating the Chavez of the Rosario fight.But your right, its just a fantasy fight and just an opinion. And it is quite difficult to picture these kind of fights isnt it? It's like imagining Ali against Prince Naseem,takes some visualising lol.

[edgarg]

I dont mean bursts in the way Wilder does,I just mean he was a fast twitch power combination puncher rather than a volume punching pressure fighter.Dont get me wrong, I love Mike,I just cant see anyone beating the Chavez of the Rosario fight.But your right, its just a fantasy fight and just an opinion. And it is quite difficult to picture these kind of fights isnt it? It's like imagining Ali against Prince Naseem,takes some visualising lol.

You've said it....but we can dream, can't we......!!