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  • REDEEMER
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    #21
    Arum has come to his senses within hours . Ha

    Wonder where all the trolls are from the other thread on HEARN . Rexy and the band of fools .

    Don’t talk about the fight doe .

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    • vitali1999
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      #22
      For U.K not the U.S.

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        #23
        Originally posted by iamboxing
        I'd wager more people knew who Frazier and Ali were in the 70s than people know who Joshuah and Fury is today. Also, this fight should marinate for another 10 years #werenotready

        That’s not likely , the population of today is double then it was in around 1970 .

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        • Razor Ramon
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          #24
          You could say it's the biggest since Lewis/Tyson, not be lying, and it'd still be impressive because that was nearly 20 years ago. I'm sure I'll get shot down for this but to me it's a better fight, because these 2 are still at their peak, okay their peaks aren't Lewis or Tysons peaks, but Tyson was so far past it by that point he was just trading on hype, he had no chance and I think the industry knew it, but carried on like it was a big deal to sell the fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by iamboxing
            I'd wager more people knew who Frazier and Ali were in the 70s than people know who Joshuah and Fury is today. Also, this fight should marinate for another 10 years #werenotready

            I would say this is the biggest heavyweight fight since Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield I & II.

            It is bigger than everything that has happened since that fight. Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis was maybe the only fight that was bigger, social media and how things are covered these days can create a illusion that every event is bigger these days 'But relatively speaking most events are not'.

            When you actively try and avoid fights, and social media but still hear about events 'That is when you know it is big'.

            When Mike Tyson was returning for a exhibition this year, I had on numerous occasions come across people who where excited about the event from all different backgrounds 'And I did not even know these people, I would overhear these conversations'.

            The only reason why this fight is not bigger, is because both fighters have not entirely cracked America 'Tyson Fury has come closest to doing just that'.

            Superstardom is diluted these days.

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              #26
              Originally posted by thack
              The promoters smell money! It's a big fight for sure but don't get too carried away as unlike some unbeaten fighters of the past fighting in a big heavyweight tussle one of these guys has already been exposed by a unheralded little fat guy and some say the other has fought nobody......just a little prospective for theses promoter's here!
              Yes, and let's not forget about Fury's ban for steroid use.

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                #27
                Originally posted by vitali1999
                For U.K not the U.S.
                You realize boxing is supposed to be a world sport right?

                If no one cares in America that's a shame but as long as the rest of the world watches, this is a fight that could actually grow boxing for everyone.

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                  #28
                  "The closest heavyweight fight it compares to would be the first Ali-Frazer fight which was in March of 1971. The whole world stopped. Why? Because Ali couldn't fight because of the draft situation, couldn't fight for three and a half years but he was still undefeated," Arum told The Sun.

                  Bob is laying it on extra thick! Neither Fury or Joshua are as big as Muhammad Ali! They MIGHT be close to Mike Tyson, but that's about it! Maybe he should've said, "The closest fight it compares to would be Tyson vs. Lewis..." I don't think it sells more PPVs than Mayweather vs. Pacquiao.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                    I would say this is the biggest heavyweight fight since Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield I & II.

                    It is bigger than everything that has happened since that fight. Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis was maybe the only fight that was bigger, social media and how things are covered these days can create a illusion that every event is bigger these days 'But relatively speaking most events are not'.

                    When you actively try and avoid fights, and social media but still hear about events 'That is when you know it is big'.

                    When Mike Tyson was returning for a exhibition this year, I had on numerous occasions come across people who where excited about the event from all different backgrounds 'And I did not even know these people, I would overhear these conversations'.

                    The only reason why this fight is not bigger, is because both fighters have not entirely cracked America 'Tyson Fury has come closest to doing just that'.

                    Superstardom is diluted these days.
                    How can Bob overlook the "Thrilla in Manila?"

                    Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier: How "Thrilla In Manila" Became The Most Legendary Boxing Match in History

                    THE LEGACY

                    Now, 45 years later, Thrilla in Manila remains in the minds of fans and boxing enthusiasts. And why not? According to reliable sources, it was a fight watched by over a billion viewers globally, including 100 million viewers watching the fight on closed-circuit theatre television. Add to that, Thrilla in Manila was the very first boxing match to be on pay-per-view home cable TV, transmitted through HBO. This garnered another 500,000 pay-perview buys for the most lauded Ali-Frazier match.

                    It has been 45 years since the most celebrated match of Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier took place in the Philippines. But until now, "Thrilla in Manila" remains one the most talked about boxing fights of the century

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Bronx2245
                      How can Bob overlook the "Thrilla in Manila?"

                      Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier: How "Thrilla In Manila" Became The Most Legendary Boxing Match in History

                      THE LEGACY

                      Now, 45 years later, Thrilla in Manila remains in the minds of fans and boxing enthusiasts. And why not? According to reliable sources, it was a fight watched by over a billion viewers globally, including 100 million viewers watching the fight on closed-circuit theatre television. Add to that, Thrilla in Manila was the very first boxing match to be on pay-per-view home cable TV, transmitted through HBO. This garnered another 500,000 pay-perview buys for the most lauded Ali-Frazier match.

                      https://ph.asiatatler.com/society/a-...illa-in-manila
                      Yes over time Thriller and Manila is probably the biggest fight in combat sports history 'And it was because of pure competition at the highest level, no gimmicks or acting was needed to build the fight'

                      Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier where fighting for something more than materialistic gain or even World Titles 'I am not even sure that I can put into words exactly what they where fighting for, but it was something primordial'.

                      I don't think you see that in boxing anymore, or very rarely for a combination of reasons. Fighters at top level are sometimes business men, and everyone wants to give the appearance that they really care about fighters 'It is like people in the sport of boxing are afraid of how far these competitors can push themselves' Fair enough, that is alright it is not a bad thing to care for fighters not at all.

                      You only have to think back to Wilder vs Fury II, all the people ****ing on as if it was the most brutal gruesome fight in the history of boxing 'Don't you ever dare watch the fight alone if you are new to the sport'.

                      I don't think Wilder vs Fury II should of been stopped, this week in numerous posts 'I have made this clear'. Sometimes at a certain level in this sport, when to competitors collided 'You just have to let the fight go'.

                      Because that is what some fighters like Deontay Wilder train for, he may not be the most technically gifted 'But he does have that primordial attitude inside, the same thing you saw in both fighters during the Thriller in Manila'.
                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-12-2021, 09:02 AM.

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