Comments Thread For: Arum: Fury-Joshua is Biggest Heavyweight Fight Since Ali-Frazier 1

[Coachcody]

It's big in the UK...

[TexasCowBoy]

War Fury......Fury by Knockout in the 10th Rd.

[LA_2_Vegas]

I guess people of different age groups will have their own standard. I'm in my 30s so Bowe-Holyfield I is the HW fight for me.

[AllenMoss]

Fury KO's A.J. in 6

[BattlingNelson]

Idk Lennox and Tyson was pretty big if we are still going off heavyweights.

It was big, but everyone who knew about boxing also knew that Tyson was overmatched and only was the favorite for the sentimentals.

A bigger fight was Klitschko vs Povetkin though. It may not have gotten the Anglon ink of Tyson vs lummox, but pursewise it was bigger.

[vitali1999]

You realize boxing is supposed to be a world sport right?

If no one cares in America that's a shame but as long as the rest of the world watches, this is a fight that could actually grow boxing for everyone.

It's as big as Ali vs Frazier 1 for the U.K. For the U.S. it's a big fight, bigger than Wilder vs Fury but not as big as Frazier vs Ali 1. Both Ali and Frazier were undefeated at the time. Joshua was knocked silly all over the ring by Ruiz. Big difference.

[Jack Rivers]

Sorry to burst your rose tinted glasses bubble but both Fury and AJ give Frazier & Ali tough fights. Fury would break Fraziers back from the first clinch.

The beast that was a 220 pound 6'3" Foreman is a small heavyweight by todays standards. It's a hard truth. Frazier would cut to cruiserweight.

Did i ever say "if" aj or fury would fight ali or frazier? Before you thrown your little pebbles around, actually read instead of jumping the gun to respond. Different area bud but if all 4 were at the same height and weight level, aj and fury wouldn't be close to the skill level of ali and frazier.

Read. Comprehend. Reply.

[Jack Rivers]

The skill level isn't on the level of Ali/Frazier? Neither Frazier or Ali had any skill. Frazier was a Bar-room brawler with 1 arm. Ali was a punch bag because he had no defence. Why else do you think that many bums was able to hit Ali so often and give him Parkinson's?

Both AJ and Fury have more skill between their fingernails than both Frazier and Ali together. So stop with the delusion and madness. You speak exactly like a cult member speaks. The evidence can be found on film. Put this question to any member of the public who don't watch boxing and therefore not brainwashed, and they'd laugh at you for suggesting the they come anywhere near in the skill department.

This idiot clearly knows nothing about the sport or history of boxing. Just a f@g troll living in his mothers basment being angry posing like he knows something. I guess sports and boxing experts that covered the sport for 40 years know nothing.

[Sid-Knee]

This idiot clearly knows nothing about the sport or history of boxing. Just a f@g troll living in his mothers basment being angry posing like he knows something. I guess sports and boxing experts that covered the sport for 40 years know nothing.

Go and actually watch Ali's career. Watch how all of the nonsense spewed is actually myth. Ali couldn't really do any of the things they say he could. Which is why he lost most of his big fights but got gifts lots of times and hit like he was a Heavy bag against even none fringe level guys. Go and watch the first Cooper fight and the Doug Jones fight and see the supposedly prime Ali get beaten, wobbled more times than a drunk sailor, and dropped, only for his team to use illegal salts to bring him round and try to rip the glove to buy even more time. The story of Ali being past it after coming back is bullshlt to excuse him losing all the time and being hit as much as he was. But that was happening before he was out for 3 years. Fighting bums and shot fighters is all he did before the 3 years out. That's why the defeats didn't come as thick and fast as they did after coming back.

Frazier is a 1 armed Bar-Room brawler. To say he's a skilled fighter is a mockery against reason and truth. Outside of beating Ali, what the f3ck did he actually do? Lose to Bonavena and get a gift and beat a Lightheavyweight? Please. Fighting bums and smaller fighters can be done by the Chisoras of the world. They'll win too in great fashion. But when it comes to stepping up, that's when you see their true quality. Frazier wasn't great in any way. Fury and AJ have more skill in their sleep. It's an insult to suggest otherwise. It's like the looney claiming the likes of Dempsey and Marciano could beat Vitali or a Lennox Lewis. They'd be crushed in horrible mismatches. As would these two against Fury and AJ. So keep your delusions to yourself. I'm not buying the shlt you sell.

[Jack Rivers]

Go and actually watch Ali's career. Watch how all of the nonsense spewed is actually myth. Ali couldn't really do any of the things they say he could. Which is why he lost most of his big fights but got gifts lots of times and hit like he was a Heavy bag against even none fringe level guys. Go and watch the first Cooper fight and the Doug Jones fight and see the supposedly prime Ali get beaten, wobbled more times than a drunk sailor, and dropped, only for his team to use illegal salts to bring him round and try to rip the glove to buy even more time. The story of Ali being past it after coming back is bullshlt to excuse him losing all the time and being hit as much as he was. But that was happening before he was out for 3 years. Fighting bums and shot fighters is all he did before the 3 years out. That's why the defeats didn't come as thick and fast as they did after coming back.

Frazier is a 1 armed Bar-Room brawler. To say he's a skilled fighter is a mockery against reason and truth. Outside of beating Ali, what the f3ck did he actually do? Lose to Bonavena and get a gift and beat a Lightheavyweight? Please. Fighting bums and smaller fighters can be done by the Chisoras of the world. They'll win too in great fashion. But when it comes to stepping up, that's when you see their true quality. Frazier wasn't great in any way. Fury and AJ have more skill in their sleep. It's an insult to suggest otherwise. It's like the looney claiming the likes of Dempsey and Marciano could beat Vitali or a Lennox Lewis. They'd be crushed in horrible mismatches. As would these two against Fury and AJ. So keep your delusions to yourself. I'm not buying the shlt you sell.

Like i said already, you cannot compare fighters in the 70s to fighters of today, but if they were pound for pound height/ weight, the consensus by experts, historians and atheletes is todays hw do not stack up to the skill level.

Ali hardly took punishment in his prime. Fact. There is not substantial evidence that Parkinson's disease is related to taking hits to the head in boxing. Brain damage and accelerated Alzheimer's, yes, but not Parkinson's. Ali would have developed this disease regardless. Name another boxer? Holyfield would be dead from the disease by now. The guy was a human punching bag.

I guess floyd Patterson was a bum? Sonny liston was a bum. Cleveland and ect..

Klitschko beat no one. That era was considered the garbage era in the sport and he never was undisputed. Lewis beat an old out of prime tyson. If he actually fought boe then we could have a discussion. Fury beat an old klitschko and the same with aj.

Look, you think boxing is all about the biggest baddest man lol. You look at it like wwf which is fantasy. Mike Tyson was crushing people at 5'10 that were 6'5. But then you'll say oh they were bums... Ruiz maybe 6'2 beat aj at 6'6. But then you'll say it was luck. Povetkin old a$$ beat whyte. Oh that was a lucky punch you'll say. Ali beat liston you'll say he was old it eas fixed...And blah blah blah...

Ali 6'3 in his prime would beat aj, fury, lewis and wilder. He'd straight box their head off. They would hardly touch him. Styles make fights of course which is why ruiz is the better boxer of aj and why he beat him the first time. Mike tyson in his prime even at 5'10/11 would destroy aj, wilder, lewis, klitschko...

You can't compare era's but since you keep arguing it, this is the simple fact that. Plus for some reason you just want to troll and hate on ali for some reason it appears. But good for you. Keep up the nonsense that all experts and historians argue.