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  • #71
    Simple math says Teofimo vs anyone for 5 mill loses money. Arum won't pay Teo more than 3, why would anyone else? Face it, 10 mill = I really, really don't want that fight, period. That's just the numerical bedrock.

    Originally posted by daggum View Post
    you didnt understand my post at all. top rank wouldnt be putting up the money for the fight. dazn would be except dazn isnt putting any money up for the fight. pretty sure zero isnt a great offer to accept wouldnt you agree? do you accept job offers that offer you zero dollars? pretty sure you dont! do you have any offers that hankey has made to lopez? if so please reveal them now! like i said all you have is hankey saying I WANT TO FIGHT! that means squat when he makes zero offers to fight. thats like me saying i want to fight you then logging off for 2 years. what a fight! that really shows i want to fight right? what if i say i want to fight you then i go and fight some disabled 80 year old? yeah i showed you i want to fight! watch out you are next! then i never say where i want to fight, when i want to fight, etc...thats what hankey is doing.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      sure if they both want it but hankey already claimed he was making 2.5 million to fight gamboa and that he was the a-side so i dont see him being very reasonable if he actually beats a top 10 fighter. how much is hankey going to want at that point? 5 million? 10 million? more? there is no incentive for him to take risks which is my whole point. this is a grift. it doesnt mater what hankey says or does. he is getting paid!
      So we agree, 1 top ten fighter should get somebody a big fight based on the standard set by Teofimo himself. Also, thanks for the totally unsolicited opinions about all that other stuff...

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      • #73
        Originally posted by factsarenice View Post
        Simple math says Teofimo vs anyone for 5 mill loses money. Arum won't pay Teo more than 3, why would anyone else? Face it, 10 mill = I really, really don't want that fight, period. That's just the numerical bedrock.
        top rank and dazn have different business models. top rank knows that fight would lose money if they paid each guy that much. dazn offered willder 100 million dollars when he was making what 1 million a fight? so yeah thats pretty weak critical thinking there. dazn has to pay a premium to get the premium fights. they have to lose money short term to build their brand long term. pretty simple. they were willing to do it in the past for joshua but not for hankey? ok then. that says a lot about what they think of hankey. hes just no ready. thats ok. just dont pretend you want the fights. its condescending. lopez knows all this too by the way. thats why hes not asking for 10 million to fight anyone else. kambosas doesnt have dazn as his promoter. thats why hankey should offer lopez a competitive offer to see if they can steal him away and get him on their network yet they arent. you keep taking hankeys side even though he has made ZERO offers.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
          So we agree, 1 top ten fighter should get somebody a big fight based on the standard set by Teofimo himself. Also, thanks for the totally unsolicited opinions about all that other stuff...
          hmmm straw man alert! lopez beat the #1 ranked guy. last i checked fortuna was ranked 6 or so...so yeah not the same. beating a top ten guy will certainly help his case but i dont think you automatically get a big fight because you beat the #6 guy and i never said if you beat one top 10 guy you deserve a big fight. thats called a straw man. dont say we both agree when i never said that. i am not your straw man. your childish debate tacitcs prob work on the drooling trumpers here but thats pretty sad to pick on them. they need help, not beat downs.

          i just want to know why you think hankey deserves a big fight? i have no problem with him fighting lopez, loma, etc...but he is no more estbalished and in most cases less established then most other guys. also he is with dazn so that makes fights a lot harder to make since he cant leave dazn. unless they put up a great offer which he hasnt done why waste your time with him?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by daggum View Post
            hmmm straw man alert! lopez beat the #1 ranked guy. last i checked fortuna was ranked 6 or so...so yeah not the same. beating a top ten guy will certainly help his case but i dont think you automatically get a big fight because you beat the #6 guy and i never said if you beat one top 10 guy you deserve a big fight. thats called a straw man. dont say we both agree when i never said that. i am not your straw man. your childish debate tacitcs prob work on the drooling trumpers here but thats pretty sad to pick on them. they need help, not beat downs.

            i just want to know why you think hankey deserves a big fight? i have no problem with him fighting lopez, loma, etc...but he is no more estbalished and in most cases less established then most other guys. also he is with dazn so that makes fights a lot harder to make since he cant leave dazn. unless they put up a great offer which he hasnt done why waste your time with him?
            Commey was the #1 ranked guy?

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            • #76
              Sorry Devin, but Teo speaking facts! Beat Fortuna, then see if you can get one of the other 3 Kings @ 135 (4 if you count Lomachenko)! If none want that smoke, talk to the WBC, and go challenge for that WBC strap @ 140! If you do that, and still don't get Teofimo in the ring, then we all know what it is...DUCK!

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              • #77
                News flash, Teofimo is no Wilder. Get famous, gain 100lbs and come talk about heavyweight money. Wilder got 15 times what Teo made on his best day fighting Breazeale and Breazeale ******.


                Originally posted by daggum View Post
                top rank and dazn have different business models. top rank knows that fight would lose money if they paid each guy that much. dazn offered willder 100 million dollars when he was making what 1 million a fight? so yeah thats pretty weak critical thinking there. dazn has to pay a premium to get the premium fights. they have to lose money short term to build their brand long term. pretty simple. they were willing to do it in the past for joshua but not for hankey? ok then. that says a lot about what they think of hankey. hes just no ready. thats ok. just dont pretend you want the fights. its condescending. lopez knows all this too by the way. thats why hes not asking for 10 million to fight anyone else. kambosas doesnt have dazn as his promoter. thats why hankey should offer lopez a competitive offer to see if they can steal him away and get him on their network yet they arent. you keep taking hankeys side even though he has made ZERO offers.

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                • #78
                  You missed it, Hearn isn't offering Wilder 100mill, Wilder lost and THAT is why Teo is avoiding Haney. Teofimeo is all about avoiding anyone that might stop the money train.

                  You go ahead and shell out $75 for Koala George, good luck with that.

                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  top rank and dazn have different business models. top rank knows that fight would lose money if they paid each guy that much. dazn offered willder 100 million dollars when he was making what 1 million a fight? so yeah thats pretty weak critical thinking there. dazn has to pay a premium to get the premium fights. they have to lose money short term to build their brand long term. pretty simple. they were willing to do it in the past for joshua but not for hankey? ok then. that says a lot about what they think of hankey. hes just no ready. thats ok. just dont pretend you want the fights. its condescending. lopez knows all this too by the way. thats why hes not asking for 10 million to fight anyone else. kambosas doesnt have dazn as his promoter. thats why hankey should offer lopez a competitive offer to see if they can steal him away and get him on their network yet they arent. you keep taking hankeys side even though he has made ZERO offers.

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                  • #79
                    Teofimo full of crap. Devin Haney is the WBC champion and a fight with him will be for undisputed at 135 why not beat Haney and become undisputed?


                    The funny thing about it is Josh Taylor told Teofimo the same thing. Josh told Teofimo that if he want the fight with him at 140 he gotta put in the work.

                    Besides what work has Kamboses done to get a shot? Kamboses ain't for undisputed! Kamboses hasn't headlined any fights outside of Australia lol

                    Yet Haney made more money fighting Gamboa than Teofimo made fighting lomachenko, how did that happen? Lol

                    Stop ducking son lol

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by daggum View Post
                      have people heard of haney? dazn isnt a big success at least in the US yet. also no a-side fighter wants to make themselves the b-side fighter voluntarily unless its for a lot of money. i dont see mr hankey offering any large offers to make lopez take that risk, or any offers at all, and we know mr hankey isnt leaving the safe confines of dazn so how is the fight supposed to happen? either hankey is going to come to top rank since he's the b-side or hankey is going to offer lopez a lot of money to make the fight. neither has happened. blame hankey. the guy with no resume. dont blame the guy who just beat the 2 best fighters at his weight
                      I’m pretty sure Haney is more known than that Australian guy teo was going to fight.

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