Pacquiao-Crawford in negotiations?

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not happening

bob father wouldnt make this when they were both under him


def not allowing it now

i thought arum loved in house fights? now he didnt want to make it? crawford was already offered the fight and said he deserved more money even though it was more money than he has ever made and last i checked his ppv ratings were garbage. oh well. fantasy land wins again. i deserve more because im amazing!!! maybe so but is your revenue amazing...no....i thoght boxing was a business? now you should be paid just based on how amazing you think you are? thats a pretty hard thing to legislate

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I believe that Arum's complaint about Crawford is that he makes no attempt to help promote the fight, even though it's for his own benefit to do so.

is that not true? he did zero promotion for his brook fight. thats why i dont get why people dont like arum. hes not afraid to call out his own fighters for doing dumb things. he used to call out floyd for ducking all the time cause floyd was ducking. most other promoters would just say my guy is the best we want to face the best! then behind the scenes kill all the fights but arum didnt want to lie like that. he knew floyd was ducking and he knows crawford is too. kell brook was a sorry ass fight. who wants to watch that crap against a shot fighter? the only way is if you promote it and make people believe its going to be exciting in some way. if you arent going to fight good fighters like pac and choose brook then you have to make it worthwhile and crawford didnt. at least crawford isnt breaking his contract and refusing to fight good fighters in order to fight bums like floyd did, only to get sued by arm, so their relationship isnt that bad yet.

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is that not true? he did zero promotion for his brook fight. thats why i dont get why people dont like arum. hes not afraid to call out his own fighters for doing dumb things. he used to call out floyd for ducking all the time cause floyd was ducking. most other promoters would just say my guy is the best we want to face the best! then behind the scenes kill all the fights but arum didnt want to lie like that. he knew floyd was ducking and he knows crawford is too. kell brook was a sorry ass fight. who wants to watch that crap against a shot fighter? the only way is if you promote it and make people believe its going to be exciting in some way. if you arent going to fight good fighters like pac and choose brook then you have to make it worthwhile and crawford didnt. at least crawford isnt breaking his contract and refusing to fight good fighters in order to fight bums like floyd did, only to get sued by arm, so their relationship isnt that bad yet.

You should write fantasy poetry, Daggums world of story telling.

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Because he lies to his fighters and makes matches when he wants not when the fighter wants, if he thinks his fighter gets beat in a high profile match he will avoid it on one side of his face and tell his fighter they avoiding it on the other side of his face.

and this is based on what? please dont tell me floyd pac as floyd was proven to be the one who constantly changed his demands. how about marg vs floyd? did arum tell floyd marg didnt want to fight him for 7 mill? go fight sharma for 3 mill instead? thats kinda rude cause then arum sued floyd for fighting sharmba and breaching contract. floyd so badly didn want to fight marg he broke his contract and fought a bum. thats pretty devastating evidence against floyd but lets see how you spin that one. good luck!

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You should write fantasy poetry, Daggums world of story telling.

what is fantasy? crawford was offered the fight and a career high payday. he didnt take it. brook was an unranked fighter and he made much less money fighting him. please feel free to tell me im wrong. oh wait yo prob think trump got more votes right? but im the fantasy one! notice how your posts dont contain any actual evidence in them? like if you are holding back please feel free to release your evidence load all over me, and bear in mind emotional feelings dont count as evidence sorry! my post was based on the evidence that pac already offered crawford a fair offer(6.5 million and ppv points) and crawford didnt take it, hence crawford is the one on blast. your evidence is you like crawford, or you like fighter X therefore they must be right. not the best bulletproof defense to be honest. pretend like this is a court. would you walk in and say wow your claims are fantasy! and then just expect the court to rule in your favor? prob not going to happen. you need a little more substance then saying i hate arum, arum is a liar, arum is a cheat. you actually have to show your work in this kind of forum to gain any kind of legitimacy. im certainly not going to believe you based on you saying "arum is a snake" what does that mean? besides the vague anti-semitism i cant do much with that and i personally love anti-semitism!

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what is fantasy? crawford was offered the fight and a career high payday. he didnt take it. brook was an unranked fighter and he made much less money fighting him. please feel free to tell me im wrong. oh wait yo prob think trump got more votes right? but im the fantasy one! notice how your posts dont contain any actual evidence in them? like if you are holding back please feel free to release your evidence load all over me, and bear in mind emotional feelings dont count as evidence sorry! my post was based on the evidence that pac already offered crawford a fair offer and crawford didnt take it, hence crawford is the one on blast. your evidence is you like crawford, or you like fighter X therefore they must be right. not the best bulletproof defense to be honest. pretend like this is a court. would you walk in and say wow your claims are fantasy! and then just expect the court to rule in your favor? prob not going to happen. you need a little more substance then saying i hate arum, arum is a liar, arum is a cheat. you actually have to show your work in this kind of forum to gain any kind of legitimacy. im certainly not going to believe you based on you saying "arum is a snake" what does that mean? besides the vague anti-semitism i cant do much with that and i personally love anti-semitism!

All of it, its your perception which is driven by an agenda, you have a like and dislike meter which controls your filters, you see what you want to see.

What I think of Arum is my opinion its as valid as your opinion because neither of us know what goes on in thier locker room.

There is no recorded history hard facts and numbers, this is a debate about opinions, I said mine you said yours there is nothing to debate .

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All of it, its your perception which is driven by an agenda, you have a like and dislike meter which controls your filters, you see what you want to see.

What I think of Arum is my opinion its as valid as your opinion because neither of us know what goes on in thier locker room.

There is no recorded history hard facts and numbers, this is a debate about opinions, I said mine you said yours there is nothing to debate .

yes everything is fantasy becasue we are living in the matrix simulation buddy!

i dont have an opinion. i have facts. my analysis is based on those facts. your analysis is based on your bias. what do you have? where are your facts? fact is crawford was offered the fight for 6.5 million with ppv points and turned it down. fact is he fought unranked brook for much less so what are you talking about? this isnt opinion. if you think that is a crappy offer then say so. i dont think it is. crawford doesnt make that much and doesnt generate ppv buys at all. you are trying to deflect and not argue the merits. common tactic of someone with no substance so like i said WHERE IS YOUR SUBSTANCE ON WHICH YOU ARE MAKING YOUR CLAIMS!

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yes everything is fantasy becasue we are living in the matrix simulation buddy!

i dont have an opinion. i have facts. my analysis is based on those facts. your analysis is based on your bias. what do you have? where are your facts? fact is crawford was offered the fight for 6.5 million with ppv points and turned it down. fact is he fought unranked brook for much less so what are you talking about? this isnt opinion. if you think that is a crappy offer then say so. i dont think it is. crawford doesnt make that much and doesnt generate ppv buys at all. you are trying to deflect and not argue the merits. common tactic of someone with no substance so like i said WHERE IS YOUR SUBSTANCE ON WHICH YOU ARE MAKING YOUR CLAIMS!

Gut feeling and its never failed me, many opinions come from a constant mental gathering of information over often years that your subconscious is putting together all the time, we are not even aware of it happening a lot of the time, like I said its my opinion I dont give a **** what you think about it, I will never fight for an opinion that doesnt have rock solid proof . I could be wrong just as you could be wrong thats a waste of energy to me , like I said nothing to debate.

When I have the proof the numbers and documents I never back off, an opinion well thats just a ferris wheel you can go around on your own.

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I'm almost certain that the money for fighting Manny and being able to have that name in his resume is enough for Bud to take the fight. Title be damned.

Yes, it's true that Manny was brutally knocked out, and that would entice Crawford. But my point is, it shows hypocrisy from NSB, because for years the narrative has been "Crawford will only fight guys with a belt".

Crawford will do better numbers than Thurman, people will turnout for a good match between the top guys.

Top guys - so you have a typo in your post.

I wasn't aware Spence and Manny were going to fight.