Pacquiao-Crawford in negotiations?

[HewJohnson]

I dont see it we will have to wait and see, Thurman was really a nobody out for years and one average fight back, I think the real boxing fans would support Manny TC , Manny Spence or TC Spence.

I really hope one of the above gets made boxing needs it now.

The 500K Thurman and Manny sold is mostly due to Manny, he sold the same with the 3rd Bradley fight.


Crawford wouldn’t generate much more, maybe even less.

[pasawayako]

I dont see it we will have to wait and see, Thurman was really a nobody out for years and one average fight back, I think the real boxing fans would support Manny TC , Manny Spence or TC Spence.

I really hope one of the above gets made boxing needs it now.

lol. I can't believed i'm agreeing with u except for the thurman part, thurman that time was still more known and marketable than tc, still the man to beat at ww and more accomplished than crawford and spence combined.

[Roadblock]

The 500K Thurman and Manny sold is mostly due to Manny, he sold the same with the 3rd Bradley fight.


Crawford wouldn’t generate much more, maybe even less.

True it wasnt Thurman, I think TC is a little different it will do at least what Thurman did maybe 650-700k .

[edgarg]

Because he lies to his fighters and makes matches when he wants not when the fighter wants, if he thinks his fighter gets beat in a high profile match he will avoid it on one side of his face and tell his fighter they avoiding it on the other side of his face.

ALL I can see fom your silly explanation, that he's protecting his fighter.

[edgarg]

The 500K Thurman and Manny sold is mostly due to Manny, he sold the same with the 3rd Bradley fight.


Crawford wouldn’t generate much more, maybe even less.

I believe that Arum's complaint about Crawford is that he makes no attempt to help promote the fight, even though it's for his own benefit to do so.

[Roadblock]

ALL I can see fom your silly explanation, that he's protecting his fighter.

Its not so silly if he is protecting his own pocket first, something we will never know for sure.

[Roadblock]

I believe that Arum's complaint about Crawford is that he makes no attempt to help promote the fight, even though it's for his own benefit to do so.

And that should be between him and TC in private, thats Arum the snake going public when he shouldnt , it come as a knee jerk because TC said he cant get fights, Bob thought that made him look bad so he was quick to throw it at TC .

If I were TC Id leave just like Oscar Floyd and Cotto did.

[edgarg]

How do I know , Ive always felt it and Koncz revealed they were not aware of the offers made by Oscar and Schaefer when they met Floyd in the motel and made the fight, dont you think its strange Arum supposedly couldnt make the fight and Floyd does when he can talk direct with Pac and his manager with no Arum in the room.

Listen, you're a nice guy but you are on the wrong track. You go by years-old hearsay. Koncz has no standing...where is he now.. Arum made massive efforts to get that fight going. To the extent,that he appealed to former Judge Daniel Weinstein who tried to mediate. He wasted a lot of time over it.

Another time, verything was agreed, and there ws a meeting at which everybody showed up but Mayweather. The mediator then was Russ Greenburg the HBO chief. He issued a statement after, saying thet the fault was entirely Mayweather's who didn't even turn up.

So... PULLEAZZE.. stop taking about what you don't really have the facts on. I don't literally mean to stop talking, you're a free man, but to verify your facts before you deal with me. Otherwise I'll just correct you. Because I kNOW. else I wouldn't put it in writing.

You should know too,because it was all published on BoxingScene, where I get most of my information. I just happen to have a very good memory. I've said this before.

****Incidentally Judge Weinstein was appealed to because it was he, who arbitrated the original mish-mash that Oscar tried to involve MannyP in, when he dragged him to a meal after his 16 hour flight,and badgered him for 2 1/2 hours to sign with Golden Balls. He kept pushing the paper and pen to the yawning MannyP, who just a often pushed it away, but finally, knowing it would not be valid, as he was signed with Top Rank, and wanting to get away from Oscar, to go to bed, he signed****.

[Rockybigblower]

How do you know this. I'm in boxing too, far longer than you, and don't know this. The boxer has the choice to fight which ever opponent is most available. He can turn it down, and you know that almost as many fights fall through as are actually fought, because one of the fighters refused the purse, or conditions, or venue, or country, or wanted his whole family to be comped first class all the way, and fifty other reasons. The Promoter can only arrange the match after the boxer and his manager decide. He tells them who is available. He works for them not the other way 'round....which seems to be the way you have it.

And anyway, to call an inoffensive old man you don't even know, who has never done anything to you, a "snake' is cheap and low. ...as low as a snake in fact.

All right....chill.out Mother Theresa.

[Roadblock]

Listen, you're a nice guy but you are on the wrong track. You go by years-old hearsay. Koncz has no standing...where is he now.. Arum made massive efforts to get that fight going. To the extent,that he appealed to former Judge Daniel Weinstein who tried to mediate. He wasted a lot of time over it.

Another time, verything was agreed, and there ws a meeting at which everybody showed up but Mayweather. The mediator then was Russ Greenburg the HBO chief. He issued a statement after, saying thet the fault was entirely Mayweather's who didn't even turn up.

So... PULLEAZZE.. stop taking about what you don't really have the facts on. I don't literally mean to stop talking, you're a free man, but to verify your facts before you deal with me. Otherwise I'll just correct you. Because I kNOW. else I wouldn't put it in writing.

You should know too,because it was all published on BoxingScene, where I get most of my information. I just happen to have a very good memory. I've said this before.

****Incidentally Judge Weinstein was appealed to because it was he, who arbitrated the original mish-mash that Oscar tried to involve MannyP in, when he dragged him to a meal after his 16 hour flight,and badgered him for 2 1/2 hours to sign with Golden Balls. He kept pushing the paper and pen to the yawning MannyP, who just a often pushed it away, but finally, knowing it would not be valid, as he was signed with Top Rank, and wanting to get away from Oscar, to go to bed, he signed****.

Im still a nice guy its just Im on my track and youre on your track and neither of know for sure if we are on the truth train .

So peace out brother I just reading where Leon Spinks died at 67, thats my territory Id rather enjoy being here than arguing, and besides where I sit now at 8pm its as hot as hades and I dont feel like arguing a difference of opinion . All good.