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  • Dallas' 4 Eva
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    #41
    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
    ugas and todays version of Thurman are not world class,,,never said mean machine was
    Ugas and Thurman are still definently world class bro. Lmao if they aren't world class your boy Crawford would of came up off Thurman's name and just beat his ass like everyone hypothetically says he would. Keep going with me bruh, I'll pull the veil from over your eyes and expose just how weak 'Buds' career really is bruh.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #42
      Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
      Ugas and Thurman are still definently world class bro. Lmao if they aren't world class your boy Crawford would of came up off Thurman's name and just beat his ass like everyone hypothetically says he would. Keep going with me bruh, I'll pull the veil from over your eyes and expose just how weak 'Buds' career really is bruh.
      How can you say that about Ugas? Just because he had a close fight against Porter? Guy has 4 losses and should have lost to Dulorme. His biggest accomplishment is a close fight with a guy who isn't even world class.

      Thurman used to be the truth but we all know he doesn't care about boxing anymore. Lopez brutalized him and almost put him on the hospital. We all know Manny cherrypicked the Thurman fight over Bud, that's no secret.

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      • Dallas' 4 Eva
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        #43
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
        How can you say that about Ugas? Just because he had a close fight against Porter? Guy has 4 losses and should have lost to Dulorme. His biggest accomplishment is a close fight with a guy who isn't even world class.

        Thurman used to be the truth but we all know he doesn't care about boxing anymore. Lopez brutalized him and almost put him on the hospital. We all know Manny cherrypicked the Thurman fight over Bud, that's no secret.
        How is Porter not a world class fighter? Explain this to me? You do realize Porter has beaten more HOF's/Borderline HOFs than Crawford right? Ugas is 9-1 as a welterweight, and his one loss was a close fight that could of gone either way against guess what A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER.

        If Ugas is so trash then why aint Crawford and his camp pushing for a fight with him to get his belt then? Let's see the ****ing fight then! They aint mentioned fighting that man not ONE TIME. You know why because Ugas, just like Ray Robinson that same journeyman who Mean Machine got a gift draw against, EMBARRASED Crawford in the amatuers and beat him WIDE. You keep sipping that kool aid and smoking that ******ed Bud pack if you want to bruh.

        Lopez literally had what three good rounds against Thurman, other than that Thurman DOMINATED that fight, the **** fight did you watch bruh. Not to mention Thurman even said he fought Pac basically one handed bro.

        But damn all that, let's see Crawford vs Ugas. Since Ugas is so trash it should be an easy W for Crawford then bro. I don't want to hear about what he WOULD do I want to see what he ACTUALLY DOES. Let's see the ****ing fight, and don't bring up pricing himself out, Bob can get Ugas for dirt ****ing cheap.

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        • TernceBudCharlo
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          #44
          Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
          How is Porter not a world class fighter? Explain this to me? You do realize Porter has beaten more HOF's/Borderline HOFs than Crawford right? Ugas is 9-1 as a welterweight, and his one loss was a close fight that could of gone either way against guess what A WORLD CLASS FIGHTER.

          If Ugas is so trash then why aint Crawford and his camp pushing for a fight with him to get his belt then? Let's see the ****ing fight then! They aint mentioned fighting that man not ONE TIME. You know why because Ugas, just like Ray Robinson that same journeyman who Mean Machine got a gift draw against, EMBARRASED Crawford in the amatuers and beat him WIDE. You keep sipping that kool aid and smoking that ******ed Bud pack if you want to bruh.

          Lopez literally had what three good rounds against Thurman, other than that Thurman DOMINATED that fight, the **** fight did you watch bruh. Not to mention Thurman even said he fought Pac basically one handed bro.

          But damn all that, let's see Crawford vs Ugas. Since Ugas is so trash it should be an easy W for Crawford then bro. I don't want to hear about what he WOULD do I want to see what he ACTUALLY DOES. Let's see the ****ing fight, and don't bring up pricing himself out, Bob can get Ugas for dirt ****ing cheap.
          Porter's never been p4p, comes up short every big fight he's in, and it's not even like the guys he faced was that good. Kelly Brook in his prime was the best fighter porter fought and Shawn got completely outclassed. His best win is a close decisions against the guy who shamelessly ducked the iceman at 140 AND got his ass lit up by Mauricio Herrera. That's not world class.

          Amateurs don't mean s***, you know that. If it did, GGG and Lomachenko would be the 2 best p4p in the world right now but they're both trash. If amateurs were such a big predictor of pro success then how come Bud made 2 GOLD MEDALISTS, the highest honor you can achieve in amateur boxing, look like complete bums?

          C'mon bro you can't tell me the Thurman from today is the same Thurman from 2015. He's checked out,

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            #45
            Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
            Porter's never been p4p, comes up short every big fight he's in, and it's not even like the guys he faced was that good. Kelly Brook in his prime was the best fighter porter fought and Shawn got completely outclassed. His best win is a close decisions against the guy who shamelessly ducked the iceman at 140 AND got his ass lit up by Mauricio Herrera. That's not world class.

            Amateurs don't mean s***, you know that. If it did, GGG and Lomachenko would be the 2 best p4p in the world right now but they're both trash.

            C'mon bro you can't tell me the Thurman from today is the same Thurman from 2015. He's checked out,
            Porter got outclassed to losing a MD? A MAJORITY DECISION LOSS IS NOT GETTING OUTCLASSED. Bro do you understand how ****** you ****ing sound. Porter has NEVER been outclassed by anyone. Crawford doesn't even have a Paulie Malinaggi on his record, let alone Devon Alexander, Danny Garcia, Adrian Broner, or an Andre Berto.

            DAMN ALL THAT. Why can't Crawford fight Ugas? If he is such trash MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT! He has a belt, aint Crawford belt chasing, go take his ****ing belt if he is such trash bro. **** Porter, **** Thurman, **** everybody else. Crawford vs Ugas bro, let us see Bud dominate this dude like you claim that the Green Machine would bro. LET'S SEE THE ****ING FIGHT!

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              #46
              Originally posted by genrick
              Fight will never happen until Spence actively pushes for it.
              It's been clear he's the one dumping roadblocks over another.
              "He's on the wrong side of the street; I have a long list of fights
              waiting for me at PBC; Crawford should accept whatever he's offered."

              Which fighter says things like he's on a different street
              and crap like that? Fans or promoters are supposed to be
              the only ones that should talk like that. Not fighters. It's de****able.

              Man, can't wait to see this guy lose.
              Spence has zero interest in Crawford. You could see it by his words and actions.

              When asked about Crawford in his DGarcia post-fight interview, "Don't know what he's doing here..."

              Bud was probably sent there by Bomac and supposed to confront Spence, but didn't see a chance due to the awkward nature of the sports environment, covid-related.

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                #47
                Originally posted by genrick
                Fight will never happen until Spence actively pushes for it.
                It's been clear he's the one dumping roadblocks over another.
                "He's on the wrong side of the street; I have a long list of fights
                waiting for me at PBC; Crawford should accept whatever he's offered."

                Which fighter says things like he's on a different street
                and crap like that? Fans or promoters are supposed to be
                the only ones that should talk like that. Not fighters. It's de****able.

                Man, can't wait to see this guy lose.
                No matter what happens you always find a way to blame the pbc affiliated fighter.

                You literally watched Bob and Crawford campaign for a manny fight when asked about the Spence/ Crawford fight after his last title defense and you still are blaming this on Spence and pbc.

                Bob literally talked for almost 3 minutes about Manny/ Crawford in the Middle East.

                Spence giving an honest assessment about the situation doesn’t mean he isn’t pushing for the fight. Spence pointing out the financial particulars isn’t him not pushing for the fight.

                You want Spence to lose solely because he is The top name with pbc. Then you’re pretending you want him to lose because he is blocking this fight or hurting the sport.

                You’re extremely transparent and phony.

                What you want is the pbc fighter to take less than he is worth regardless of the fight. As soon as the pbc fighter doesn’t do that you accuse them of ducking or not wanting to fight, regardless of the facts.

                Why do you only ask the pbc guys to sacrifice money and the advantages they fairly earned in order to prove they want a fight?

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                • TernceBudCharlo
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dallas' 4 Eva
                  Porter got outclassed to losing a MD? A MAJORITY DECISION LOSS IS NOT GETTING OUTCLASSED. Bro do you understand how ****** you ****ing sound. Porter has NEVER been outclassed by anyone. Crawford doesn't even have a Paulie Malinaggi on his record, let alone Devon Alexander, Danny Garcia, Adrian Broner, or an Andre Berto.

                  DAMN ALL THAT. Why can't Crawford fight Ugas? If he is such trash MAKE THE DAMN FIGHT! He has a belt, aint Crawford belt chasing, go take his ****ing belt if he is such trash bro. **** Porter, **** Thurman, **** everybody else. Crawford vs Ugas bro, let us see Bud dominate this dude like you claim that the Green Machine would bro. LET'S SEE THE ****ING FIGHT!
                  MD, but again Porter was the sloppier fighter in that fight. He was pushing the pace and more aggressive, but Brook's counters were far more crisp and clean. I thought it was a pretty obvious win for Brook even though the MD.

                  I'm all about Bud vs. Ugas. I think it's easy work for Bud.

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                  • 4truth
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                    #49
                    It’s becoming less and less special everyday. This thing has been marinated nearly to death.

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                      #50
                      Crawford won't accept his 40% split.

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