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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by evets
    They take 15% rather than the standard 25% and have a reputation for making sure fighters are paid and not taken advantage of. So that's pretty attractive I guess. It does raise more questions about their business practices though and how sustainable it is - for example Carl Frampton does not pay them at all for their services.

    Regarding the threat to the BBC team, it's strange. The threat has came from here, Northern Ireland. The Kinahans aren't involved with our paramilitaries as far as we know and they are who usually make the credible death threats that result in relocation. Maybe it's just reported as that as the reporter lives here. Just found it strange.
    So they are just kinda copying the Al Haymon management model, at least partially, where guys pay less & that 10% savings is a good deal for boxers?

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    • diarraisagod
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      #22
      The bit I liked was projecting Barry McGuigan as some kind of saviour of Boxing

      They carefully avoided mentioning why Frampton had taken him to court

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      • evets
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        #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        So they are just kinda copying the Al Haymon management model, at least partially, where guys pay less & that 10% savings is a good deal for boxers?
        It's kinda sad but a big part of it is not getting ****ed about with money apparently. I only know couple mtk lower end guys but they really emphasise that point. Looking and trying to think about the bigger picture maybe as Kinahan is an associate not linked to anything and apparently knows loads of people in boxing he probably makes deals get done/fights get made and makes it easy to sign up as he isn't "part " of it which probably makes it easier to turn blind eye or defend it. It's like all the perks but with deniability.

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          #24
          Originally posted by mattr
          Arrogant weasel faced ****. He needs bringing down a peg or 3.
          Hopefully his empire comes crumbling down once the idiot fanboys realize he is robbing them with his non-PPV PPV shows.
          thanks to eddie's work, us brits and people all over, get to watch US cards for a daunting £1.99 a month.
          Those cards feature all manner of talent in boxing.

          As for non-ppv shows, like? give examples.
          dillian whyte vs povetkin?
          chisora vs usyk?
          the people who paid for that did so, so their fav fighters can get paid.
          that too during a global pandemic and hence no fans in attendance, no big promotion like before.

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            #25
            Originally posted by evets
            It's kinda sad but a big part of it is not getting ****ed about with money apparently. I only know couple mtk lower end guys but they really emphasise that point. Looking and trying to think about the bigger picture maybe as Kinahan is an associate not linked to anything and apparently knows loads of people in boxing he probably makes deals get done/fights get made and makes it easy to sign up as he isn't "part " of it which probably makes it easier to turn blind eye or defend it. It's like all the perks but with deniability.
            Yea I suspect a lot of people got sh^t managers in the first place & they are taking a higher % so I guess I can understand it from that POV. They are probably like "this guy charges less & look at all these big names that trust him...that'll work for me".

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            • evets
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              #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              Yea I suspect a lot of people got sh^t managers in the first place & they are taking a higher % so I guess I can understand it from that POV. They are probably like "this guy charges less & look at all these big names that trust him...that'll work for me".
              Yeah. Once on gets signed typically all the friends follow too, at least that's how it was with the guys here so most fighters probably have a friend saying how great it is. Also they seem to give their fighters jobs in the company, example Jamie Conlan. I guess they need it as they are so big and growing fast so that's another attraction, a chance to have a stable job after boxing. So they are coming at you saying we will take less, get you the fights you want, get eyes on you on our youtube cards, your mates are here and if you hang up the gloves theres potential job offers. Writing it all out makes it seem impossibly good lol.

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                #27
                It's boxing, nobody gives a ****, the mob has always been involved. WAR Kinahan!!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by steeve steel
                  Hearn: "the mob has always been involved in boxing. Get over it!" lol
                  They'll be wearing headgear before the mob leaves boxing

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                    I’m just soooooo surprised. Hearn having dealings with organised crime figures? The man would sell out his nan for a fiver...
                    Who managed Ward?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BigZ44
                      It's boxing, nobody gives a ****, the mob has always been involved. WAR Kinahan!!!
                      It's always been this way is no argument at all.

                      If you can't find the energy to condemn organised crime, there is a problem.

                      There was a golden era in HW boxing in the 60s and 70s that coincided with Ali becoming champ... Who incidentally was protected by the Nation of Islam and therefore meant the ties between the Mob and the HW belt were severed.

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