How many current title holders can you say are great?

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  • OldTerry
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    #11
    If we are picking for the ones who will be on the all time list I would say only Canelo currently and then PAC based on his legacy.

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    • ShaneMosleySr
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      #12
      Tyson Fury, Canelo Alvarez, Terence Crawford, Teofimo Lopez, Manny Pacquiao.

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      • TernceBudCharlo
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        #13
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        Fighters nowadays are so entitled for championship belts and they are emboldened by the sanctioning bodies. I was not around in those days, but it would have been so cool if a fighter wanted to become champion he had to beat one champion of the weight class. Instead of having the option to beat like 5 different titleholders. With either 4 or all 5 of them being mediocre.

        Like how many weight classes can you look at and say that more than one title holder is great?

        HW...I would say I like both Fury and AJ.

        CW...Breidis is pretty good.

        LHW...I think Beterbiev is the clear “great” fighter there.

        SMW...Canelo.

        MW...GGG and Charlo are both good champs...Andrade and Murata not so much.

        SMW...Charlo is good.

        WW...Spence and Crawford have to fight this one out. Spence at least beat Porter at 147.

        JWW...Taylor and Ramirez are both good champs.

        LW...Obviously loaded, and Teo beating Loma created more questions than answers. Teo is officially the Ring champ, but it’s a loaded division.

        SFW...I think Davis is the best there. Although I doubt he fights at 130 again.

        FW...Not sure about this one. Would have to see Russell fight someone with a pulse.

        SBW...not sure.

        BW...Inoue is a good champ.

        Jr BW...I’d say Estrada. But a non title holder there, Rungvisai, I would say is equal to Estrada.

        As for the rest, I do not follow fighters that are the average weight of a 15 year old female.
        Belts are totally meaningless

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        • Dodger07
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          #14
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Fighters nowadays are so entitled for championship belts and they are emboldened by the sanctioning bodies. I was not around in those days, but it would have been so cool if a fighter wanted to become champion he had to beat one champion of the weight class. Instead of having the option to beat like 5 different titleholders. With either 4 or all 5 of them being mediocre.

          Like how many weight classes can you look at and say that more than one title holder is great?

          HW...I would say I like both Fury and AJ.

          CW...Breidis is pretty good.

          LHW...I think Beterbiev is the clear “great” fighter there.

          SMW...Canelo.

          MW...GGG and Charlo are both good champs...Andrade and Murata not so much.

          SMW...Charlo is good.

          WW...Spence and Crawford have to fight this one out. Spence at least beat Porter at 147.

          JWW...Taylor and Ramirez are both good champs.

          LW...Obviously loaded, and Teo beating Loma created more questions than answers. Teo is officially the Ring champ, but it’s a loaded division.

          SFW...I think Davis is the best there. Although I doubt he fights at 130 again.

          FW...Not sure about this one. Would have to see Russell fight someone with a pulse.

          SBW...not sure.

          BW...Inoue is a good champ.

          Jr BW...I’d say Estrada. But a non title holder there, Rungvisai, I would say is equal to Estrada.

          As for the rest, I do not follow fighters that are the average weight of a 15 year old female.
          Id say a lot of guys need to sort it out currently to be considered great.

          Fury-joshua
          Beterbiev-bivol
          Spence-crawford
          Taylor-ramirez
          Teo-garcia-haney
          Tank-berchelt

          All of these guys have a case or potential to be considered the "great" of their division. But they need to fight each other to get that distinction.

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          • MastaBlasta
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            #15
            Originally posted by Songbird
            idk tough one

            fury surely is a great liar and cheat, or is he?
            joshua is a good if not great spoofer, like his promoter but not quite as good as him
            russians can be great but usually at drinking vodka
            spence is not great at driving when drunk, that one is for sure
            crawford is great at giving the impression he already thinks hes great
            charlos are great talkers, if only i could understand what they are on about
            4 kings at LW, nuff said
            lots of great smaller guys too, put them all together and they make up one great big guy
            we are all great trying to work out how many great guys there are from all the great available belts
            Haha! Excellent!

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            • MastaBlasta
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              #16
              Let's see ... "will go down as great":

              - Pacman
              - Beterbiev (not there yet but I think he'll make it)
              - Lomachenko
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              - Povetkin (career accomplishments, longevity, PEDS are an asterisk and a problem)
              - GGG (career accomplishments)
              - Canelo (for career earnings only - resume, Peds, timing of fights, catchweights ... are all question marks and problems for boxing credentials)
              - Inouye
              - Rigondeaux

              Have the potential to go down as great:
              (depends on what happens from here = DOWHFH)

              - Spence
              - Fury
              - Wilder
              - Teofimo
              - Canelo
              - Gay Russell Jr.
              - Joshua
              - Benavidez
              - Bivol

              Keep in mind there are only a very few ATG's that never lost a fight.

              That said, there are several up and comers that have the potential also. The future will tell ...

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              • buddyr
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                #17
                I think beterbiev is good for his division. Relentless attacking style, but I don’t think he’s as good as this site claims. I’ve seen a lot of his fights and he’s not hard to hit at all.

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #18
                  None. Current fighters aren't active enough to determine their greatness. Some with a potential. I need to see more from all, unless we are throwing the word around.

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                  • Cobratu
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                    #19
                    Only clear greats right now are...

                    Canelo
                    Manny

                    That’s it the rest have a lot to still acomplish.

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                    • BoxingIsGreat
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                      #20
                      I could be convinced Estrada is semi-great.

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