Comments Thread For: Make Sure There is a Hall of Fame to Attend in 2022 And Then...

[landotter]

I believe the boxing hall of fame will be ok. I have never liked the mandatory "3 in" rule, but I get it. The city and the hall needs a ceremony every year. The craziness of the last 12 -15 months of this pandemic has begun to really show. It will take a long time to recover. But sports has always found a way, and Halls of fame are special places. There are living memories around every corner and history comes alive. I just feel nostalgia wins.

[Monty Fisto]

See this is what you get in a sport that gives no fooks about anything except money. A HOF that sounds like it might go outta business lol.

Boxing is, has been & will continue to be super ripe for a takeover by someone with a lot of money who can consolidate the sport like all other major sports have been consolidated. And that group that does it will multiply whatever wealth they have by 10x or more & fans will come back to boxing in droves when boxing makes as much sense outta the ring as in the ring or basically it gets up to par with every other major sport finally.

No. Boxing is a global sport for individual sportsmen who are effectively self-employed and cannot possibly operate in the same way as US major league team sports.

The most applicable models are golf and tennis. Always the problem for boxing is the recovery time between fights though. If you implemented major surgery (i.e. far fewer rounds per match) you might be able to move toward a model of several major championships per year, and a tour of lesser tournaments, but it would be tough.

[Eff Pandas]

No. Boxing is a global sport for individual sportsmen who are effectively self-employed and cannot possibly operate in the same way as US major league team sports.

You think boxing is the only global sport?

Look there are a million ways you could break this up. Personally I'm partial to weight specific regions for the highest level fights & having a tier system like baseball & sumo wrestling where you can only compete against guys at your level. So guys have to prove themselves in competitive fights at every level before moving up to the next higher level & if you come up short too much you drop a level.

And like if you are a big guy in Japan you'd have to go to the US or UK to enter the A level HW league & if you are a 122lb guy from Chicago you'd have to move to Japan or somewhere to compete at the highest level. But that's just my preference there are other ways you could do it so all the top level guys are competing more often & that competing against top guys is built into the league model.

Beyond that you just need a group of owners who'll put up money to own regions & you could have something going on.

The most applicable models are golf and tennis. Always the problem for boxing is the recovery time between fights though. If you implemented major surgery (i.e. far fewer rounds per match) you might be able to move toward a model of several major championships per year, and a tour of lesser tournaments, but it would be tough.

Yea I agree the brutalness of boxing is problematic. And it's always gonna be a risk involved with a fight happening at all til the moment both guys get in the ring. Not much you can do about that. I think you just gotta have subs ready if something happens to keep the show going. That's just a problem that sucks but you'll have to grin & bare it as best you can.

[Monty Fisto]

You think boxing is the only global sport?

Look there are a million ways you could break this up. Personally I'm partial to weight specific regions for the highest level fights & having a tier system like baseball & sumo wrestling where you can only compete against guys at your level. So guys have to prove themselves in competitive fights at every level before moving up to the next higher level & if you come up short too much you drop a level.

And like if you are a big guy in Japan you'd have to go to the US or UK to enter the A level HW league & if you are a 122lb guy from Chicago you'd have to move to Japan or somewhere to compete at the highest level. But that's just my preference there are other ways you could do it so all the top level guys are competing more often & that competing against top guys is built into the league model.

Beyond that you just need a group of owners who'll put up money to own regions & you could have something going on.



Yea I agree the brutalness of boxing is problematic. And it's always gonna be a risk involved with a fight happening at all til the moment both guys get in the ring. Not much you can do about that. I think you just gotta have subs ready if something happens to keep the show going. That's just a problem that sucks but you'll have to grin & bare it as best you can.

Re: your question about me thinking boxing is the only global sport.

No, hence my comment about golf and tennis.

You're right that there are many ways the problem can be attacked and you are right in that the solution needs everyone pulling in one direction, which is to say not having multiple sanctioning bodies. But when you originally said consolidate like major sports, it conjured in my mind the idea of MLB or NFL or the NBA and I don't think those models suit the problem. Maybe I inferred something that was not implied.

[Eff Pandas]

Re: your question about me thinking boxing is the only global sport.

No, hence my comment about golf and tennis.

You're right that there are many ways the problem can be attacked and you are right in that the solution needs everyone pulling in one direction, which is to say not having multiple sanctioning bodies. But when you originally said consolidate like major sports, it conjured in my mind the idea of MLB or NFL or the NBA and I don't think those models suit the problem. Maybe I inferred something that was not implied.

Yea I'm talking more about turning boxing from a bunch of mom & pop stores into a big box franchisable store that is more of a machine that only works to make things bigger & better. Everyone is on the same page in most every other sport. Boxing has too many chiefs trying to run things. The power is too divided. That needs to change to grow the sport as big as it can be.

[Monty Fisto]

Yea I'm talking more about turning boxing from a bunch of mom & pop stores into a big box franchisable store that is more of a machine that only works to make things bigger & better. Everyone is on the same page in most every other sport. Boxing has too many chiefs trying to run things. The power is too divided. That needs to change to grow the sport as big as it can be.

I agree with all that.