Best Beatdowns from one top 10 fighter to another from 2000-2009?

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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #11
    Holyfield-Tyson

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    • garfios
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      #12
      Originally posted by Toffee
      Worst beatdown from that list I'd have Lewis Tyson. Calzaghe v Lacy was an enjoyable fight, if one sided. Lewis v Tyson was actually painful to watch. Tyson was only in the fight for about 2 minutes.
      Tyson was a shadow of himself.

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      • Hot Shyt
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        #13
        I think Cotto won 2 or 3 rounds.. the David Diaz fight was even more of a domination.

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          #14
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Thread did not ask which fighters you thought were not suitable to fight. Thread asks, in plain English, worst beatdowns from one top 10 fighter to another from 2000-2009.

          English is not my first language, and i’m sure many of you only speak English. So I expect you to comprehend the language better than I.

          Corrales was The Ring’s #1 ranked 130 pound fighter and ranked #5 by The Ring P4P list when this fight took place. Odds were also even. Nice revisionist history. Hindsight bias. But gtfo of the thread with your offtopic BS.
          English may not be your first language, whichyou writ well, nor is it mine actually, but your understanding may be deficient. I can write whatever I like here, and it's up to the Management to decide what's acceptable. So, in very polite terms, allow me to politely suggest that you just ...bugger off. .

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          • buge
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            #15
            Originally posted by edgarg
            the Mayweather -Corraless so-called "fight" was a disgraceful show of "gamesmanship" frpm long before it took place. Corrales was out of his mind, his family broken up, over his head in debt, going to jail for 2 years immediately after the "fight. On the morning of the weigh-in was still 10 lbs over, spent no time training, all his time in the sweatbox even the morning of the wrigh-in, which he failed twice. T.K. Stewart, the well known boxing writer and historian wrote both in this site, and to me personally, that;

            "as soon as I saw him, skn grey, bones sticking out all over, being helped to the scales leaning on a friend's arm, I knew he had no chance....."

            All the facts above can be amply verified. His trainer said he couldn't get him to train, when he wasn't in the sweat box he was in his hotel room playing with a gameboy. Larry Merchant, at ringside said. I was just going past Corrales dressing-room and there he was perched up on the table, scoffing down a huge hamburger...."" Corrales gave a TV interview that lasted about 15 mins, and when asked why he'd taken the (130 lb) fight when he'd had so much trouble making weight for the past few years, that he'd gone up to lightweight since the year before. He said..."they made me an offer I just couldn't refuse" he was penniless then.

            It was the most disgusting and contemptible plot in boxing for the last 50 years.
            Damn, I wasn't watching boxing then but I thought many people said Corrales was Mayweather's best win.

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            • edgarg
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              #16
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Thread did not ask which fighters you thought were not suitable to fight. Thread asks, in plain English, worst beatdowns from one top 10 fighter to another from 2000-2009.

              English is not my first language, and i’m sure many of you only speak English. So I expect you to comprehend the language better than I.

              Corrales was The Ring’s #1 ranked 130 pound fighter and ranked #5 by The Ring P4P list when this fight took place. Odds were also even. Nice revisionist history. Hindsight bias. But gtfo of the thread with your offtopic BS.
              Considering that your first language is not English, you do fairly well, but your understanding seems deficient. I can write whatever I like and it's for the Management to decide if it's acceptable or not. I picked two which could not possibly be acceptable in the class of "beatdowns", because of extraneous circumstances with which you, in your ignorance would not have been aware. And from the kindness of my heart, decided to "educate you". You should have thanked -instead of scoriating.

              And you are wrong on another point, at least one or more actually, It was NOT a "hindsight" bias. I disliked Maywather ever since this highly skilled, and much decorated physically advantaged, unbeaten Champion, chose to fight Emanuel Burton-Augustus, a journeyman with SIXTEEN LOSSES and NO PUNCH.
              Until then, I'd liked watching Mayweather... But. after.....

              So if you allow me to proceed, I'll just ask you politely.... to bugger off.
              Last edited by edgarg; 02-04-2021, 05:58 PM. Reason: 2 typos

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                #17
                Originally posted by buge
                Damn, I wasn't watching boxing then but I thought many people said Corrales was Mayweather's best win.
                He was Mayweather's best opponent, and the fight had been suggested by writers for over a year...Unfortunately on that day, he was just a paper opponent, for the reasons I mentioned..

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                • edgarg
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by boogbx
                  Thank you excellent post. On top of that Chico was dealing with his pops in the corner, he had no chance in hell.
                  Don't mention it; the opportunity to state plain Facts is something I should thank YOU for. Sorry I missed out on the "pops" angle.

                  {{The situation with people like us, is that no matter what truths we write here today, by the day after tommorow they're forgotten-even if read. I've detailed all this several times over the years, and still find I need to }}

                  I used to like "watching" Mayweather, apart from his low class behaviour outside the ring...until he chose Emanuel Burton as an opponent. This poor guy, badly handled (not even managed) had 16 losses and NO Punch. Why should a major Champion at ANY weight fight such a guy. Especially with such height, reach and other advantages. ( I liked Emanuel far, far more than Mayweather at this time but this is not my point)

                  Mayweather's BRAINS TRUST (like Oscar's) always examined a potential opponent inside-out, top to bottom, to make sure he had a big advantage over any proposed opponent. People have forgotten this, or likely never knew it, but the writers and reporters pointed it out often. And I have an excellent momory.

                  His Group did the very same with Corrales, grabbed the opportunity when the poor guy was literally shattered, out of his mind, and likely to swallow any lifeline, even for temporary relief, and from a known enemy. He knew he was being taken advantage of, but as he remarked to the TV Hostess.."they made me an offer I couldn't refuse".. The look on his face as he said that...told ALL...

                  Corrales was only at that fight in name, and everything I've said about it, and it's lead up, is true. From THAT time, although I disliked him because of Burton, I've positively detested him ever since...and will never change, not that it matters. But to me, having been a pretty enthusiastic amateur, with a deep family boxing history, boxing has always been a SPORT. And i like to see REAL sportsmen in action...rarely do these days.
                  Last edited by edgarg; 02-04-2021, 07:49 PM.

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                  • pasawayako
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                    #19
                    No one came close to pac-Barrera, that one was the worst beatdown against a recognized lineal and top 3 lb4lb fighter.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by edgarg
                      Considering that your first language is not English, you do fairly well, but your understanding seems deficient. I can write whatever I like and it's for the Management to decide if it's acceptable or not. I picked two which could not possibly be acceptable in the class of "beatdowns", because of extraneous circumstances with which you, in your ignorance would not have been aware. And from the kindness of my heart, decided to "educate you". You should have thanked -instead of scoriating.

                      And you are wrong on another point, at least one or more actually, It was NOT a "hindsight" bias. I disliked Maywather ever since this highly skilled, and much decorated physically advantaged, unbeaten Champion, chose to fight Emanuel Burton-Augustus, a journeyman with SIXTEEN LOSSES and NO PUNCH.
                      Until then, I'd liked watching Mayweather... But. after.....

                      So if you allow me to proceed, I'll just ask you politely.... to bugger off.
                      If you want to be off topic, that’s okay, but go be off topic elsewhere. That’s not up to management to allow you to post in my thread. There’s actually an ignore function which I can use to force you to “bugger off” with your nonsense.

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